[Thotmas]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Please explain how a good religious person can still go to hell....

Good person and religious person are seperate things. You said you don't need anyone to tell you what to do in order to be a good person. Even if someone is the nicest person in the world, caring to everyone , donates, gentle that's great for people they meet but that alone doesn't get you into heaven.

To asnswer your question though anyone can call themselves religious but are they doing actually doing what's required. Some pastors call themselves religious but are using it to molest, or steal, or commit adultery.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Good person and religious person are seperate things. You said you don't need anyone to tell you what to do in order to be a good person. Even if someone is the nicest person in the world, caring to everyone , donates, gentle that's great for people they meet but that alone doesn't get you into heaven.

To asnswer your question though anyone can call themselves religious but are they doing actually doing what's required. Some pastors call themselves religious but are using it to molest, or steal, or commit adultery.

What do you get when you get into heaven?

[Thotmas]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

What do you get when you get into heaven?

We're just passing by on earth. Your spirit has eternal happiness. If you were to die tomorrow it doesn't end there. Faith down here in Lucifer's pit is to prepare you for that life.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

We're just passing by on earth. Your spirit has eternal happiness. If you were to die tomorrow it doesn't end there. Faith down here in Lucifer's pit is to prepare you for that life.

Any links to provide factual evidence to this statement?

[Thotmas]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Any links to provide factual evidence to this statement?

Here is a passage about this not being his world
"do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone should love the world, the love of the Father is not in him, because all that is in the world, the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes and the vaunting of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world. And the world is passing away, and its desire; but the one doing the will of God abides to the age."

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Here is a passage about this hot bein his world
"do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone should love the world, the love of the Father is not in him, because all that is in the world, the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes and the vaunting of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world. And the world is passing away, and its desire; but the one doing the will of God abides to the age."

I will ask again... any Factual evidence?

[Thotmas]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

I will ask again... any Factual evidence?

What factual event are you looking for? You want me to yank someone out of heaven right now? The word here is faith once you open yourself up to that possibility you feel different about things. Once you've got that faith and are persistent with it, you know it doesn't end when your loved ones bury your corpse in the ground.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Any links to provide factual evidence to this statement?

She doesn't need to provide you with factual evidence for her own personal beliefs. They're hers, not yours.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

We're just passing by on earth. Your spirit has eternal happiness. If you were to die tomorrow it doesn't end there. Faith down here in Lucifer's pit is to prepare you for that life.

I think I'd rather take non existence than being some mindless automaton Wandering around a cloud with a permanent grin etched across my mug for eternity.

[Thotmas]

Originally Posted by Kyle

I think I'd rather take non existence than being some mindless automaton Wandering around a cloud with a permanent grin etched across my mug for eternity.

I know it's a lot easier to just not believe and get on with everything you have to deal with down here, even people of faith know that and it's not an easy journey. That's why God doesn't force anyone it's your choice whether you believe it or not but when it's too late, he tried

Btw the other choice is not non existence, it's burning and you feel it.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

We're just passing by on earth. Your spirit has eternal happiness. If you were to die tomorrow it doesn't end there. Faith down here in Lucifer's pit is to prepare you for that life.

I often used to think that when in my teens, I think a lot of it has remained in me too.

[Thotmas]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I often used to think that when in my teens, I think a lot of it has remained in me too.

Me too.