[jaxie]

I've noticed that people are being jailed and stopped from joining Is. There was another story in the press today. While I totally understand this in the case of minors it seems rather an interference from the state in an adult's choice. Would it not be better to let people go but that they forfeit right to UK passport/citizenship if they do? As in you can go but you can never come back. Isn't jailing them simply building more resentment?

[user104658]

My only concern is the precedent that it sets... As in, what are they actually being jailed for? Considering joining a criminal organisation? Before they actually join or do anything? I don't understand what the crime is. I mean in theory I understand the desire to prevent the crime in the first place but... It's a bit "Minority Report", isn't it? Convicting people of a crime that they "might" commit.

[bots]

personally, i would rather let them go and face their fate over in Syria. If they just go there with no paper trail the chances are they would not be arrested. If however there has been communication with known terrorists then they are fair game to be arrested.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

personally, i would rather let them go and face their fate over in Syria. If they just go there with no paper trail the chances are they would not be arrested. If however there has been communication with known terrorists then they are fair game to be arrested.

Only if that communication directly involves discussing or planning criminal activity, surely.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Only if that communication directly involves discussing or planning criminal activity, surely.

i think its an offence to have any association with a terrorist organisation

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

My only concern is the precedent that it sets... As in, what are they actually being jailed for? Considering joining a criminal organisation? Before they actually join or do anything? I don't understand what the crime is. I mean in theory I understand the desire to prevent the crime in the first place but... It's a bit "Minority Report", isn't it? Convicting people of a crime that they "might" commit.

ISIS, ISIL, IS - whatever - are, by much publicized word and deed, the sworn enemies of the Democratic West.

Their well publicized goal is to obliterate us and replace us with their own extreme form of Islam, and they have PROVED that there is no lengths of depravity, cruelty, immorality, and inhumane barbaric, bloody slaughter that they will not go to in order to secure their goal.

In my opinion therefore, ANY British domiciled person who elects to join ISIS, are - by their own volition - espousing the same anti-Western ideologies as above, and should be treated by this Government as not only traitors and enemies of the UK and its citizens, but also lethal ones to boot.

They should not be imprisoned, because why should the UK Taxpayer have to fork out for this scum to live in luxury and safety in comparison to our military - who are sacrificing 'home' comforts away from their families, whilst risking their lives fighting the very terrorists in question - on top of having to FUND the cost of such fighting?

No, they should be allowed to board the first plane to Syria after - as Jaxie says - their UK citizenship has been rescinded and their UK passports seized and destroyed, and they should go straight onto our Security and Intelligence Services 'Persona Non Grata' lists and NEVER be allowed to set foot in the UK again.

No one, BUT no one, joins any organisation unless their own personal desires, inclinations, and ideology dovetail into that organisations ideology.

Anyone desiring to join 'Paedophiles Are Secretly Us' need not have ever touched a child improperly YET, but he is not joining because he likes the title.

There is NOTHING faintly 'Minority Report' about this T.S. - sorry.

[Northern Monkey]

Well i mean there would have to be proof that they were intending to join.I think as long as there is real proof then it must be something like coluding with the enemy or treason or something.