[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by erinp5

The SNP don't believe in a democratic vote
The referendum delivered a NO vote but the SNP ignore it .
The UK deliver an exit vote , the SNP ignore it .
They take part and influence the outcome of votes in the UK , but if the outcome is not of their choice...they ignore it ...simples.

They are so angry with England and why is anyone's guess? Are we not eating enough deep fried mars bars? It's only a matter of time before they turn on the Welsh too.

[James]

If Britain and Scotland leaving the EU is bad for the economy, why leave the UK? Surely that would be worse.

[erinp5]

Originally Posted by James

If Britain and Scotland leaving the EU is bad for the economy, why leave the UK? Surely that would be worse.

Britain has voted to leave the EU , the last time I checked Scotland was part of the UK so we are out of Europe. Sturgeon would have had us out of Europe two years ago had her party won the referendum on Sept 18th 2014 .

[erinp5]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

They are so angry with England and why is anyone's guess? Are we not eating enough deep fried mars bars? It's only a matter of time before they turn on the Welsh too.

Really could you be more stereotypical .

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by erinp5

Britain has voted to leave the EU , the last time I checked Scotland was part of the UK so we are out of Europe. Sturgeon would have had us out of Europe two years ago had her party won the referendum on Sept 18th 2014 .

thats why i think the majority if not all those in Scotland who voted to remain in the EU would also wish to remain within the UK, so how Nicola thinks this gives her a mandate for an independence vote is beyond me

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by erinp5

Really could you be more stereotypical .

I've heard enough stereo typical bollocks from the Scottish folk over the years about the English people so yes i think i am entitled to respond accordingly to their bullshyte.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

I've heard enough stereo typical bollocks from the Scottish folk over the years about the English people so yes i think i am entitled to respond accordingly to their bullshyte.

not a very nice way to talk about us Scottish folk

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

not a very nice way to talk about us Scottish folk

I am not talking about the normal Scottish folk, only the haters of English folk.

[Johnnyuk123]

Whatever their problem is they need to get over it.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Whatever their problem is they need to get over it.

you don't perhaps think that some may have an attitude in reaction to those with views similar to ones you have expressed?

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

you don't perhaps think that some may have an attitude in reaction to those with views similar to ones you have expressed?

I could say the sky is blue and Nicola Sturgeon would say NO it's green. That is how out of touch with reality she is. Keep having a vote until she approves? That's Scottish democracy for yah.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

you don't perhaps think that some may have an attitude in reaction to those with views similar to ones you have expressed?

Q: Do you believe that Nicola Sturgeon is pro democracy? Yes or NO.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

I could say the sky is blue and Nicola Sturgeon would say NO it's green. That is how out of touch with reality she is. Keep having a vote until she approves? That's Scottish democracy for yah.

She is the most popular leader in the country by a long margin and she has been for a while, so she isn't as out of touch as any of the others

[Johnnyuk123]

The UK voted to LEAVE the EU. It was NOT a Scottish referendum. It was a UK referendum. So even if Scotland had voted 100% to stay in the EU the rest of the UK voted out. Accept the will of the UK and move on.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

She is the most popular leader in the country by a long margin and she has been for a while, so she isn't as out of touch as any of the others

Popular in Scotland yes. The rest of the UK just change channels when she comes on the TV.

[Northern Monkey]

I don't think you can tar all or even the majority of Scots with the same brush as Nicola Sturgeon.As said earlier,The Scottish ref told us that most Scots aren't nationalists like her.They just wanted a change from the old Westminster politicians.

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by James

If Britain and Scotland leaving the EU is bad for the economy, why leave the UK? Surely that would be worse

Um the whole point is that Scotland would stay in the EU if it was independent

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I don't think you can tar all or even the majority of Scots with the same brush as Nicola Sturgeon.As said earlier,The Scottish ref told us that most Scots aren't nationalists like her.They just wanted a change from the old Westminster politicians.

Not all Scottish people think like her at all. I agree. But this evil dwarf is going to keep forcing people to vote in Scotland until she gets the result SHE wants. And that is sick and anti democracy.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

I am not talking about the normal Scottish folk, only the haters of English folk.

Yawn. I am pro-independence, my wife is English, and she is also pro-independence. You're full of **** as always.

[James]

Originally Posted by Greg!

Um the whole point is that Scotland would stay in the EU if it was independent

It's more important for Scotland to stay in the UK than the EU because Scotland sells much more to the rest of the UK than it does to the EU.

Exports to rest of UK are worth £48.5 billion compared with £11.6 billion to EU while 250,000 jobs are linked to the single market compared with one million linked to the UK market, he said.

Mr Brown added that total of 1,000 companies from Europe are based in Scotland, compared with 3,000 from rest of UK, and pointed out the leaving the UK for the EU could mean changing currencies.

While 250,000 Scottish jobs are linked to the EU single market, he said that at least a million are connect to trade with England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...r-more-than-e/

Also countries can't just join the European Union on a whim. There's a number of criteria that have to be met. As I understand it Scotland doesn't meet those criteria currently, especially the deficit-to-GDP ratio being way to high.

[erinp5]

Originally Posted by Greg!

Um the whole point is that Scotland would stay in the EU if it was independent

If Scotland had voted yes to leave the UK in Sept 2014 we would have been out of Europe and we would then have had to apply to the EU for membership.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...o-9131925.html

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by erinp5

If Scotland had voted yes to leave the UK in Sept 2014 we would have been out of Europe and we would then have had to apply to the EU for membership.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...o-9131925.html

Incredible that those who were pro independence in 2014 were happy to leave the EU but in 2016 are pro independence because they are leaving EU

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Incredible that those who were pro independence in 2014 were happy to leave the EU but in 2016 are pro independence because they are leaving EU

Now don't be using things like logic and commonsense on here Cherie.

[Maru]

Hmmm it looks like leading revolutions to get out of oppressive overarching things is very trendy these days. Too bad Texas' ability to secede is actually a myth... I love to keep with the latest trends

No really, Brexit/Scotexit has actually brought that back...

Can Texas Legally Secede From the United States?
https://www.texastribune.org/2016/06...united-states/

Sorry, Texas: Unlike Scotland, You Can’t Secede
http://www.vocativ.com/usa/us-politics/texas-secession/

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Incredible that those who were pro independence in 2014 were happy to leave the EU but in 2016 are pro independence because they are leaving EU