[bitontheslide]

I think we should have a brexit that best suits are future prosperity. Its not something that will ever be set in stone like we had being a member of the EU. It will evolve and adjust with time.

Brexit really isn't a thing as by default, all laws remain as is, they will just be shaped and tweaked as the decades go by. I do mean decades, because anyone that thinks this is short term is kidding themselves.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I think we should have a brexit that best suits are future prosperity. Its not something that will ever be set in stone like we had being a member of the EU. It will evolve and adjust with time.

Brexit really isn't a thing as by default, all laws remain as is, they will just be shaped and tweaked as the decades go by. I do mean decades, because anyone that thinks this is short term is kidding themselves.

That's the thing isn't it, it's a new direction or path and we've been on the current one 40 years.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I think we should have a brexit that best suits are future prosperity. Its not something that will ever be set in stone like we had being a member of the EU. It will evolve and adjust with time.

Brexit really isn't a thing as by default, all laws remain as is, they will just be shaped and tweaked as the decades go by. I do mean decades, because anyone that thinks this is short term is kidding themselves.

It will, it will have to become statute... that is set in stone basically the view that this is something fluid is wrong.

We don't have decades, we have a small window or the door will shut and we will be left with the WTO (world trade organisation)

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

And we are meant to have faith in a govt so ill prepared?...

Yes they are basically making it up as they go along, and it shows, it's a catalogue of errors... is it any wonder some are worried?

As I keep saying they haven't set out their case so it's hardly a catalogue of errors. Where do you get these ideas from? You are claiming catastrophes and errors and nothing much has happened yet.

You are free to worry but it won't solve anything or make the negotiation happen quicker.

We survived many generations and even prospered without the EU. We will continue. It's not the end of the world.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It will, it will have to become statute... that is set in stone basically the view that this is something fluid is wrong.

We don't have decades, we have a small window or the door will shut and we will be left with the WTO (world trade organisation)

for goodness sake Kizzy, did you read what I said? By default the laws all stay as they currently are. If and when a change is required, it will go through as law, so if things don't need to change, they won't. So it could be decades, literally.

In terms of trade deals, it will be agreed on by the government of the time, whether that be conservative, labour or anyone else. The details of trade deals will not be agreed by parliament.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

for goodness sake Kizzy, did you read what I said? By default the laws all stay as they currently are. If and when a change is required, it will go through as law, so if things don't need to change, they won't. So it could be decades, literally.

In terms of trade deals, it will be agreed on by the government of the time, whether that be conservative, labour or anyone else. The details of trade deals will not be agreed by parliament.

Yes, yes I did.

What suits our future prosperity?

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yes, yes I did.

What suits our future prosperity?

whatever is deemed by the government of the time to be appropriate. I say that to explicitly include all future governments, because it will be their responsibility to ensure the UK keeps getting the best deals from around the world that it can.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jaxie

As I keep saying they haven't set out their case so it's hardly a catalogue of errors. Where do you get these ideas from? You are claiming catastrophes and errors and nothing much has happened yet.

You are free to worry but it won't solve anything or make the negotiation happen quicker.

We survived many generations and even prospered without the EU. We will continue. It's not the end of the world.

I get the ideas from the same place you do... but I interpret them entirely differently.

I don't have your blind faith, clearly.

[Kizzy]

Well well well..

Senior Conservative MPs have seized on a forgotten Government promise to let Parliament decide the response to any referendum result – insisting it must hold true for Brexit.

Ministers agreed, exactly six years ago, that referendums “cannot be legally binding” – which meant MPs and peers should decide “whether or not to take action” on the verdict given by voters.

The unequivocal statement flies in the face of Theresa May’s repeated insistence that her Government, not Parliament, will decide how to deliver Britain’s withdrawal from the EU.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7366316.html

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well well well..

Senior Conservative MPs have seized on a forgotten Government promise to let Parliament decide the response to any referendum result – insisting it must hold true for Brexit.

Ministers agreed, exactly six years ago, that referendums “cannot be legally binding” – which meant MPs and peers should decide “whether or not to take action” on the verdict given by voters.

The unequivocal statement flies in the face of Theresa May’s repeated insistence that her Government, not Parliament, will decide how to deliver Britain’s withdrawal from the EU.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7366316.html

PMSL if they can't legally implement an EU exit.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

PMSL if they can't legally implement an EU exit.

And it was a tory construct, they only have themselves to blame...
Of course parliament should decide :/

[Kizzy]

#mad

A Tory councillor who called for anyone supporting EU membership to be charged with treason is thought to have been suspended.

Christian Holliday, a councillor in Guildford, Surrey, placed a petition on Parliament’s website demanding that the 1848 Treason Felony Act be updated to include “the following offences”.

They would be: “To imagine, devise, promote, work, or encourage others, to support UK becoming a member of the European Union.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7365916.html