[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

It was because of a slogan on the cake that was against the cake makers religion though.I'm pretty sure gay slogans were'nt on the cake shop menu just as bacon is'nt on a muslim food establishments menu.
Oh and veganism isn't a religion(although many of them treat it like one)so bad comparison.

You are making things up now in an attempt to justify their discrimination. :/

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

Firstly, Ive never called anybody here stupid. Ive labelled their outrage stupid because it is. I also think its stupid to call excessive respect for somebody 'discriminatory'. Theyre obviously two different things.

Your opinion sort if contradicts itself.. Like shouting at somebody for not holding the door open for you and then shouting at them for opening the next one for you because youre capable of doing it yourself!

But if thats the conclusion you came to after understanding their perspective, then fine. Youve done more than most in this thread by at least acknowledging two sides.. but i just dont think you can cry for gender equality when youre ignoring social and cultural equality.

You can hardly flash the equality card either since you've argued for most the day in support of religious sexism.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

You can hardly flash the equality card either since you've argued for most the day in support of religious sexism.

Im all for equality and completely against sexism. If there was any "religious sexism" id be against it, its been well-established that there was not any sexism from these monks in this example though. Only incorrectly-perceived-sexism from several tibb members (and indeed, the angry woman in the misleadingly titled video), which im also against.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

Im all for equality and completely against sexism. If there was any "religious sexism" id be against it, its been well-established that there was not any sexism from these monks in this example though. Only incorrectly-perceived-sexism from several tibb members (and indeed, the angry woman in the misleadingly titled video), which im also against.

How convenient that you deem it not to be sexism. Well established it is not. You aren't against sexism, sorry to disillusion you, your stance is compliant.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

How convenient that you deem it not to be sexism. Well established it is not. You aren't against sexism, sorry to disillusion you, your stance is compliant.

Good lord, excessive repect for women is not discriminatory. It just isnt.

[Johnnyuk123]

No one should have to move seats for anyone. It's that simple.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

No one should have to move seats for anyone. It's that simple.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Withano

Good lord, excessive repect for women is not discriminatory. It just isnt.

As a woman I don't demand excessive respect, Just the right amount will do nicely thank you

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

Good lord, excessive repect for women is not discriminatory. It just isnt.

Yeah yeah, keep telling yourself that. Kid yourself that making a paid up female passenger move was respectful.

It's not an isolated incident either.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/27/wo...itch.html?_r=0

“For me this is not personal,” Ms. Rabinowitz added. “It is intellectual, ideological and legal. I think to myself, here I am, an older woman, educated, I’ve been around the world, and some guy can decide that I shouldn’t sit next to him. Why?”

Go get em' girl!

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by Cherie

She paid good money for her seat in advance, That was her seat that SHE paid for. She should sit in it. Simples.

[Johnnyuk123]

If anything after hearing that they wanted her to move seats to appease these fools she should have said ok move me into first class then cos i do not want to sit next to people who think like this in the year 2016 for a 4 hour flight or however long it is ffs.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Cherie

As a woman I don't demand excessive respect, Just the right amount will do nicely thank you

Right. And thats fine on an entirely different point too.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Yeah yeah, keep telling yourself that. Kid yourself that making a paid up female passenger move was respectful.

It's not an isolated incident either.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/27/wo...itch.html?_r=0

“For me this is not personal,” Ms. Rabinowitz added. “It is intellectual, ideological and legal. I think to myself, here I am, an older woman, educated, I’ve been around the world, and some guy can decide that I shouldn’t sit next to him. Why?”

Go get em' girl!

Keep telling yourself you havent ignored half the story, kid.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by Withano

Keep telling yourself you havent ignored half the story, kid.

Link please to prove that Jaxie has only read half of the story? Thanks.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You are making things up now in an attempt to justify their discrimination. :/

'Ashers Baking Company published a statement on its website defending its decision to refuse to bake the cake as the slogan above the puppets was in support of gay marriage'

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Link please to prove that Jaxie has only read half of the story? Thanks.

Would the link she used which groups two entirely different religions together count., you know, as she links two different stories from two different perspective for two different reasons and makes out that theyre the same exact thing not be enough evidence to suggest that shes thought too little about this entire situation?

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

Keep telling yourself you havent ignored half the story, kid.

I obvious look younger in my profile image than I realised.

Are you trying to be personal again? Sneer away, Cyril. Not once have I done that to you. I wonder which of us that makes the most mature.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by Withano

Would the link she used which groups two entirely different religions together count., you know, as she links two different stories from two different perspective for two different reasons and makes out that theyre the same exact thing not be enough evidence to suggest that shes thought too little about this entire situation?

So no link then?

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

Would the link she used which groups two entirely different religions together count., you know, as she links two different stories from two different perspective for two different reasons and makes out that theyre the same exact thing not be enough evidence to suggest that shes thought too little about this entire situation?

It doesn't matter what religion it is, I told you that. It's the demeaning of the woman in both cases that counts.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

So no link then?

Yes there's a link, she posted it a few posts up from this

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

Yes there's a link, she posted it a few posts up from this

You have no argument, you have no point, you are simply arguing for the sake of the last word now.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by Withano

Yes there's a link, she posted it a few posts up from this

I am asking for your link to prove that Jaxie has only read half of the story as you claim.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

It doesn't matter what religion it is, I told you that. It's the demeaning of the woman in both cases that counts.

And thats where the difference is. Youre acting insulted for the sake of acting insulted because in your mind being excessively polite is just as discrimantory as discriminating is. Whereas i take each case for what they are.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

It was because of a slogan on the cake that was against the cake makers religion though.I'm pretty sure gay slogans were'nt on the cake shop menu just as bacon is'nt on a muslim food establishments menu.
Oh and veganism isn't a religion(although many of them treat it like one)so bad comparison.

That's quite a reach.

You said 'Muslim Cafe' I took that to be a cafe that caters to Muslim needs so it's not a bad comparison by bringing Vegan places into it because they too cater to that certain demographic. Either way you wouldn't expect to find Bacon at these places.

Neither of them compare to a bakery that doesn't seemingly cater to specific audiences like those examples do.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by Withano

And thats where the difference is. Youre acting insulted for the sake of acting insulted because in your mind being excessively polite is just as discrimantory as discriminating is. Whereas i take each case for what they are.

I honestly don't believe you do.