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31-01-2017, 10:30 AM | #76 | |||
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31-01-2017, 10:47 AM | #77 | ||
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TBQFH I think this is a red herring. As I said on Livia's thread, for one, the wording of the petition about offending the poor little queen makes me puke. I am against not just our monarchy, but the very concept of royalty and everything it stands for.
Secondly... as awful as Trump is... what makes him truly awful is the fact that he is the president of the United States, and all of the implications that come with that. In terms of world leaders in general, if we're comparing them like-for-like, if you're going to ban Trump you'd have to ban about 80% of the rest of them too ... Last edited by Toy Soldier; 31-01-2017 at 10:47 AM. |
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31-01-2017, 10:47 AM | #78 | |||
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I agree with you TS. Someone alert the media... |
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31-01-2017, 10:49 AM | #79 | ||
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Nah. If it was summer, maybe. People are FAR too lazy / cosy to go out in the winter just for the sake of it. You could maybe argue that they don't all have the best reasoning skills and don't REALLY understand all of the politics behind it, that would be a fair (almost inevitable) assumption, but I think everyone "in general" does know what it's about and why they instinctively "don't like this".
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31-01-2017, 10:56 AM | #80 | |||
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31-01-2017, 11:00 AM | #81 | ||
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I have to admit that's something that bug me too. Much harder to have an issue taken seriously when there are brainless mob chants going on. This of course applies to both sides with the whole Trump thing, some of the pro-Trump mobs... ... let's just say I think more than a few long-lost cousins were running into each other at those.
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31-01-2017, 11:06 AM | #82 | |||
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Baying mobs look pretty ignorant, whatever they are baying about.
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31-01-2017, 11:14 AM | #83 | ||
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...but this is pretty majorly off topic so... Last edited by Toy Soldier; 31-01-2017 at 11:15 AM. |
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31-01-2017, 11:19 AM | #84 | ||
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You could apply the same supposition to almost anything, it's like delete as applicable to whatever particular cause you wish to belittle. The number of people there who know what they're protesting about is irrelevant, the very fact that people are exercising their democratic right (one that, btw, is chastised far too much for my liking in recent years - it's almost as if people have little understanding of its worth and history) is a good thing, people say the same about voting and this works in exactly the same way. I also think the reason for this protest is getting lost in translation. It is both against him being afforded an official 'state' visit at the expense of the tax payer (as opposed to him visiting on his own terms), and the related issue of anti-racism and Islamaphobia. People seem to be forgetting that many dual nationals in Britain were and are directly affected by the policy, and Theresa May's reluctance to condemn such an abhorrent stance is a stain on Britain's image. If the Prime Minister of the US' closest neighbour can publicly criticise it, I think we're more than capable of not disappearing up the arse of Donald ****ing Trump. |
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31-01-2017, 01:52 PM | #85 | |||
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The protests are going to be huge when Trump comes here and I don't doubt that all the Trump loyalists on here will complain about how its costing the taxpayers money. May dived into her own bear trap and clearly didn't consider the British peoples reaction. Typical Tory leader!
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31-01-2017, 01:53 PM | #86 | ||
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If there are 'bigger fish to fry' then why aren't you concerning yourself with them instead? People get involved in issues that are meaningful to them, you are not the judge of what is and isn't important. Trump has pretty much flouted the foundation that the US was built upon and the ban is pretty much unconstitutional, if you think people are 'picking a safe target' rather than protesting a serious issue that does affect the world then that's worrying. All leaders should be held accountable for their actions, this need to protect Trump from peaceful protesting and opposing opinions is rather grim. |
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31-01-2017, 01:59 PM | #87 | |||
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31-01-2017, 02:32 PM | #88 | |||
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I do think it's ridiculous to pee your panties over a Trump state visit when Putin, Mugabe, Seko, Ceaușescu, Hirohito, Putin and Xi Jinping have all had state visits.
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31-01-2017, 02:35 PM | #89 | |||
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Who said I am protecting trump? I am suggesting those who are overreacting, are, in fact, overreacting. I can admit to being slightly gobsmacked that there wasn't a sniff of all this fuss when Xi Jinping went to visit the Queen. I have every confidence that the US will deal with this themselves as a free democratic country.
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31-01-2017, 02:43 PM | #90 | ||
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31-01-2017, 02:49 PM | #91 | |||
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And I don't pee my panties as you are so rudely suggesting, but I do show grave concerns over Trump because American politics have such a huge influence on British politics.
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31-01-2017, 03:19 PM | #92 | |||
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I wouldn't know who is a Trump loyalist or who isn't but it is just as rude to say that in generalisation as it is to assume a wad of people are peeing their panties over a Trump visit. If you don't want people to make potentially rude remarks, then don't give them out. Your grave concerns might be better off encouraging the government to seek dialogue with Trump and try to be a good influential force than to rampage through London and demand he should be shunned. You are smart lady, you should know this. What disturbs me most of all is that you are more worried about what I said about people peeing their panties, than the list of names I gave.
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31-01-2017, 03:19 PM | #93 | |||
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31-01-2017, 03:33 PM | #94 | |||
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To be quite frank the sarcasms and put downs (that have come out of your mouth) towards a number of people of late have made the hair on the back of my neck stand up. Keep in mind, you are no innocent in this. Oh and I didn't rampage through London, I walked peacefully arm to arm with solidarity. Thank fcuk I live in a democracy that allows me to speak out about injustices.
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31-01-2017, 03:44 PM | #95 | |||
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Again the phrase rampage through London wasn't personal, just a reflection of the excited rampage through London.
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31-01-2017, 07:17 PM | #96 | ||
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31-01-2017, 08:35 PM | #97 | ||
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To be fair to DR, there are some Trump (what I would call) Loyalists on the forum. By which I mean, there are people who will literally twist anything and everything into a positive no matter how unrealistic when it comes to anything Trump-related. It does make some threads into a fun "how will this be spun" guessing game, though .
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31-01-2017, 08:56 PM | #98 | |||
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There are some bigly trump fans who think it bigly important this leader of the free world with all his prejudices comes to the UK.
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31-01-2017, 10:15 PM | #99 | ||
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31-01-2017, 10:29 PM | #100 | |||
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