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Old 25-02-2017, 12:19 PM #10
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Coming from a male perspective.

Many women would not be comfortable sharing bsthrooms with men - it doesn't matter whether you agree with that or not, that is how many women feel and such decisions should be theirs, not men's.

It's not just about sex crimes although this is undoubtedly an issue as most victims of sex crimes are female and most perpetrators are male, that is fact.

It is also about about simple things such as comfort, dignity and privacy - things that often affect/bother women more than men. You don't understand that, as a woman I do.

It really isn't for men to say women shouldn't be 'allowed' their own toilets/bathrooms.
Indeed. I have extremely strong views on this topic as its something thats only became apparent to me fairly recently and before that I was a good little 'trans ally' who did not question anything about it all. I still hold the view that transgender people should recieve support, should not be discriminated against when it comes to housing, healthcare, and so on. However I cannot get behind this throwing females under the bus...I just can't. Its throwing males under the bus too but not quite as much as it is mainly females in danger from males, not the other way around.

My husband started off thinking that these laws and stuff only applied to those who have 'fully transitioned' and as such he thought I was transphobic for my views. However once it became apparently that they were not, and that those who have transitioned have no issues anyway...he now agrees with me 100% and also says he would not be comfortable with females in the male loos/changing rooms/whatever. I get that this is likely a rare view as men probably don't really give a crap if a woman sees his dick. But some do.

Male and female are not a state in ones head. They are a biological reality. Honestly..I have seen articles and such claiming that sex is the social construct No dear, that would be 'gender'.

I also do not believe that part in that article that states many young women were being questioned for looking like young boys in female areas. That just doesn't happen, or definitely not enough to make out its common. I know so many butch women and not one has ever had an issue. People do realise that women who are not feminine exist....

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