[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

SO not "because Brits bare too lazy to do the jobs"?

And then also the fault of say the NHS themselves when we are told "if all the immigrants left the NHS would collapse"?

The NHS would collapse if all immigrants left because of the sheer number of qualified, trained NHS staff who are immigrants. You can't just say "Oh but Betty down the street needs a job, she can do it!"

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The NHS would collapse if all immigrants left because of the sheer number of qualified, trained NHS staff who are immigrants. You can't just say "Oh but Betty down the street needs a job, she can do it!"

I guess it would collapse if all men left, or all right handed people left or if all people who masturbated once a week left?

are you suggesting we should allow the unfettered influx of organ abusers into the UK?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I guess it would collapse if all men left, or all right handed people left or if all people who masturbated once a week left?

Err yes but no one is suggesting removing those people from the country. As far as I'm aware.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Did I say that. No words in mouths please. What I have little time for are those that see conspiracy theories around every corner and act as though they are the 'enlightened' generation and the first to question the establishment.

I find it idealistic, naïve and downright hypocritical that many are quick to question the establishment but refuse to question religious ideology and oppressive practice in their own countries - basically because it isn't fashionable, PC. They defend the undefendable in their blind attempts to lay all blame at the establishment and their misguided attempts at 'justice'. Western governments cannot compare/compete with religion when it comes to oppression and dictatorships.

I believe everyone should be held accountable for their actions whatever race, religion or nationality and PC should never get in the way of that. I too have complete and utter pity for anyone who doesn't think religious ideology and relating oppressive practice should be questioned and people indulging in such practices in this country held accountable. Since when did being a minority put someone above the laws and beliefs of a country. The same rules should apply to all and people shouldn't fear challenging behaviours because the culprits happen to be a minority group within that country.

Idealism and tunnel vision go hand in hand.

The media DO tend to create scapegoats because it's easy to get people who want their prejudices validated to buy into it. Newspapers like ongoing narratives since it's easy to report on new developments and they'll get a strong response. The good example of this is the Andrew Sachs mess that happened a few years back, it wasn't actually a story until the Daily Mail reported on it and encouraged people to complain then they spent weeks ****ting out 'follow up' stories which the public ate up.
Why go out and actually investigate a story when you can control the narrative and write 500 words on the latest statements and developments about the narrative on social media?

Everything that Jack stated were based on factual evidence so there's no conspiracy theorising there either unless you're simply denying truths you disagree with.

I also find this 'You can't complain about corrupt governments when there's muslims running about!' suggestion you made to be incredibly foolish. I care more about the government stripping away funding for public services so they can privatise everything than having an irrational hatred of muslims. All religions have fundamentalists, moderates and everything in between, I'd rather focus on what the government is doing than worry about Raheela next door's choice to wear a hijab.

Everything else in your post is just the typical meaningless 'PC BLAH BLAH, YOUNG PEOPLE ARE NAIVE!' bull****.