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So a question to all who support this ruling, would you go into a Hindu run bakery and demand they make you a cake with eggs in it? OR would accept that they don't bake cakes with eggs and go elsewhere rather than forcing your wishes on them?
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Yeah, but if you felt traumatised to go through the legal process, you'd still willingly take the 135k! Or any figure that the judge deemed fair based on your personal experience.. Im sure the couple wasnt expecting so much money either tbf, but its not like they (or anyone else in their shoes) would turn around and be like 'oh no, we only need about a quarter of that'.
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I worked out that its actually the equivalent to Ł51k each, which doesnt seem extortionate from the judge based on the story in my opinion - the bakers fault for traumatising two people!
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![]() ![]() (I agree the bakers are in the wrong btw..just find it all a bit ridiculous and kind of agree that I can't see anyone kicking up a fuss if the bakers were Hindi or Muslim or something) Last edited by Vicky.; 04-03-2017 at 11:51 AM. |
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I just think, bottom line.. dont go in to public service if youre not prepared to serve all of the public. Expect a fine if you are likely to discriminate against certain groups for whatever reason. But also, to give credit to your side of the argument, I wouldnt be surprised if the judge used the couple to make an example of them and their crime. The story was already very public before the fine, and the large figure would definitely send a message to lots of business owners. Maybe there was more depth to the judges decision.
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See..look at this then look at the 'first' (meaning first well publicized case) of these type cases..
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What if the baker went to a doctor when she has a serious illness and doctor told her that they wont be helping her because she is religious and she should pray the illness away?
This is something those bakers should think about.
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I may be alone and rich though given nearly every one of my friends is LGBT ![]() Surely its a given that whatever your religious beliefs, if you go into public services you need to put them aside and treat everyone equal though...I don't really understand how these cases keep popping up. |
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Being turned away for the former does seem more traumatic/emotional to me.
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Yeah I agree. I think this story will be one of the last of its kind, most people have adapted to the modern life, the rest should be afraid of the punishment for being a decade late.
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![]() Either example would probably just be a case of..walking a little further down the road or something mind. And both are clearly wrong (businesses not customers). Just...so much fuss made of a cake, ****s sake I got mine 3 days before my wedding after original person cancelled and the sky didn't cave in ![]() Last edited by Vicky.; 04-03-2017 at 12:19 PM. |
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It isnt just a cake or a hotel room, its also discrimination
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It's quite worrying that you see people facing consequences for discrimination as signs of a dictatorship in all honesty. Quite worrying indeed. Quote:
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If the business itself wasn't Hindu based then I'd expect them to make cakes with eggs since it would suggest they aren't devout since they wouldn't open a general bakery otherwise as they'd be expected to work with eggs every day, they'd probably opt for a specialist bakery instead and if that's the case, complaining about a lack of eggs would be like going to a vegetarian restaurant and getting mad about them not serving meat products. |
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Live and let live I say.
If it goes against their religion then aren't they being discriminated again for their beliefs? If you go to a shop, any shop that can't supply what you want then you just move on to another, it doesn't have to be an issue unless you want to make it one....and certainly shouldn't be paid out for any feeling of hurt, indignity or trauma,( trauma, FFS) Last edited by smudgie; 04-03-2017 at 02:33 PM. |
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the bakers claim as follows he bakers said their refusal to bake for the couple was prompted by religious beliefs. Nothing to do with their sexuality. One communities rights are being held up as more deserving than another in this instance |
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