[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Locke.

People clearly don't think that because it's all they've done all night

Right?

[T*]

could y'all imagine if tomorrow in the highlights Raph's all 'it was part of my gameplan' in the diary room

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Locke.

People clearly don't think that because it's all they've done all night

All i get is you dont have a right to judge because you didnt sleep in a caravan with him

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

So basically "Raph does something not very nice or says something not very nice which causes a debate on the forum like most other housemates and we'll get 'I was with him in a caravan I know him better."

WHAT a fun on season. :/

How about judging Raph on what he does in the house by himself rather than on tasks about his personal life, or VT's?

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Nope not at all. He was the one with commitments.

That's what I am trying to get to the bottom of.
Was he actually committed?
Not being awkward, but I just don't know, or indeed understand when having a bit of fun becomes a commitment.
If they all went to the same school then surely they all knew what was going on.
If the second girl was happy to sleep with him knowing he was already seeing another girl then she can't complain if he done the same to her.
Do you wear someone's badge if you are going out with them at school, saying you have exclusivity...I just don't know, things were different in my day.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

All i get is you dont have a right to judge because you didnt sleep in a caravan with him

That's "all you get"? Could you quote where you've got that?

[T*]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

So basically "Raph does something not very nice or says something not very nice which causes a debate on the forum like most other housemates and we'll get 'I was with him in a caravan I know him better."

WHAT a fun on season. :/

yep.

[LukeB]

people can be negative about it no one said they can't
but friends can be loyal to him and defend him. which is what every housemates friends would do. but doesn't mean anyone condones it. it's really the same as supporting a hm really. I stanned Nicola and defended her but i didn't condone her comments

this is getting a bit more messy

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

But yeah. I've been waiting for free shots.. ... just because eh?

Originally Posted by Marsh.

So basically "Raph does something not very nice or says something not very nice which causes a debate on the forum like most other housemates and we'll get 'I was with him in a caravan I know him better."

WHAT a fun on season. :/

Ok then

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Likability (rightly or wrongly) does play it's part on how severe the reaction will be on the same scenario.

And also Jade was changing relationships in the house where as Raph is Showmance free so far.

I mean people were throwing that around as soon as she entered the house, when they didn't really know her. And I was referring more to her mentioning it general rather than her actions inside the house

[T*]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

How about judging Raph on what he does in the house by himself rather than on tasks about his personal life, or VT's?

VT's are part of the show and literally how the housemates are INTRODUCED to us. We're allowed to read into it.

[Alf]

Raph is trending on Tibb

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I remember people's reactions that series and Jeremy had almost nobody talking about him he was that dull, and Stephanie was hailed as some sort of bullied victim on here and was forgiven because of being bullied.

Well sort your memory out pal.

[Locke.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

All i get is you dont have a right to judge because you didnt sleep in a caravan with him

It's true though isn't it? You can't ever truly know a person until you've experienced a caravan in Dawlish Warren with them

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

How about judging Raph on what he does in the house by himself rather than on tasks about his personal life, or VT's?

Because they're part and parcel of the show too and we don't have those rules for other housemates? :/

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Adam.

this is why people feel they cant say anything negative about him

I literally don't get this POV.

If he does something I dislike I'll drag him. If he does something I like I'll cheer him on.

Couldn't care less if his mates don't like it. He put himself forward for this.

[Jake.]

Everyone can literally say what they want though?

If you write something I disagree with then I can post my opinion and vice versa.

That's literally it.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by T*

VT's are part of the show and literally how the housemates are INTRODUCED to us. We're allowed to read into it.

True, Chris BB15 VT rings a bell

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Locke.

It's true though isn't it? You can't ever truly know a person until you've experienced a caravan in Dawlish Warren with them

He put himself on TV and he wil be judge on how he is on TV

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by T*

VT's are part of the show and literally how the housemates are INTRODUCED to us. We're allowed to read into it.

I prefer to judge them in the house for how many weeks they'll be in there than some overproduced VT that every Housemates talks the big talk and then is nothing like that in the house 99% of the time.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by smudgie

That's what I am trying to get to the bottom of.
Was he actually committed?
Not being awkward, but I just don't know, or indeed understand when having a bit of fun becomes a commitment.
If they all went to the same school then surely they all knew what was going on.
If the second girl was happy to sleep with him knowing he was already seeing another girl then she can't complain if he done the same to her.
Do you wear someone's badge if you are going out with them at school, saying you have exclusivity...I just don't know, things were different in my day.

Well I don't think we're talking about Raph casually sleeping with one girl and then casually sleeping with another girl. THAT'S a bit of fun.

I would imagine the point you start referring to one another as your girlfriend/boyfriend would be when the commitment comes in.

There's a clear difference between a relationship and a casual fling but maybe that's just me.

[T*]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I prefer to judge them in the house for how many weeks they'll be in there than some overproduced VT that every Housemates talks the big talk and then is nothing like that in the house 99% of the time.

Good for you.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I prefer to judge them in the house for how many weeks they'll be in there than some overproduced VT that every Housemates talks the big talk and then is nothing like that in the house 99% of the time.

That makes them fake and boring if they have to lie on a VT

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Drew.

Ok then

And the purpose of you quoting those posts just to say that was?

Leave me to take my free shots at Raph... the guy I've never spoken to. Sheesh.

[Locke.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

He put himself on TV and he wil be judge on how he is on TV

What about people that watch on other devices?