[jyunga]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

He may have done things to upset people, but bullying is always wrong in my opinion.

You have a really poor definition of what bullying is.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by jyunga

You have a really poor definition of what bullying is.

What Tom was doing is bullying and the other enabled him.

[jyunga]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

What Tom was doing is bullying and the other enabled him.

Yeah, you have a really bad view of what bullying is. Messing with his bed is hardly bullying. If anything Arthur was bullying people with some of the stuff he say to them. Calling people *****s outta the blue for no reason. He was a terrible house mate and he got ignored for being that way. It was 100% his own fault that people didn't want to talk to him anymore. He was going out of his way to make the house uncomfortable for others.

[snail69]

Can people please stop with this bullying nonsense?!

There is limited information as to why he's left. I don't have a twitter but I see some of his tweets that people posted. Whilst he did single out other housemates, did he ever mention the word "bully"? Genuine question as I probably haven't seen them all.

I personally think he was removed for fear of his mental health. Could be a long way from the truth but it's just my take. He never really seemed stable in there did he?!

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[Vanessa]

Urgh, hope Tom goes when the vote goes back to evict. I've never disliked a housemate more.

[Jamesy]

Either he had a breakdown or was told by the producers he has to leave with no reasons given.

If he walked it would have been aired, if he was ejected it would have been aired. Something fishy is going on and the producers aren't helping their show by hiding things from the public.

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[jyunga]

What if he was ejected during his private chat with BB though. They wouldn't air that.

[snail69]

Originally Posted by Jamesy

Either he had a breakdown or was told by the producers he has to leave with no reasons given.

If he walked it would have been aired, if he was ejected it would have been aired. Something fishy is going on and the producers aren't helping their show by hiding things from the public.

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I agree with this massively. Which is why I thing it was something to do with his health, specifically his mental health.

I could be miles from the truth but usually there is something to go on. Here there is not much at all. Only what he was like in the house and how out of touch with reality he seemed ro be at times.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by snail69

I agree with this massively. Which is why I thing it was something to do with his health, specifically his mental health.

I could be miles from the truth but usually there is something to go on. Here there is not much at all. Only what he was like in the house and how out of touch with reality he seemed ro be at times.

Yes, he strikes me as someone who is quite fragile.

[snail69]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Yes, he strikes me as someone who is quite fragile.

100% agree on this!!

Everything was all fun and games until someone did something back to him which on a few occasions led to him breaking down. He never seemed to understand the consequence of actions.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by snail69

100% agree on this!!

Everything was all fun and games until someone did something back to him which on a few occasions led to him breaking down. He never seemed to understand the consequence of actions.

Raph was the only one who tried to help him. He's very caring and compassionate. Most of the others gave up on him.

[snail69]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Raph was the only one who tried to help him. He's very caring and compassionate. Most of the others gave up on him.

No I don't agree with this, sorry.

Joe and Lotan both tried to sit down and talk to him after Kayleigh went at him. As well as a few others at other points. Most of the time he would get up and walk away halfway through someone making their point(he did this to either Hannah or Deborah on one of the first days). Is that okay to you?! Is that how you'd deal with things when having an adult conversation and someone just sat and listened to your side of rings already?!

The only time he really actually sat down and listened was to Joe when they made up and to Lotan a few hours later after the Kayleigh thing. Although we never actually see him apologise to Lotan, he acknowledged he needed to and said he would but felt he should go away and think about it all first.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I personally think he left because he was feeling bullied. But that's just my take in it. Some of that lot has been vile to him. Messing with his things and ignoring him all the time. It's not nice.

He totally brought it on himself Vanessa being horrible to them locking food in the storeroom and telling Kayleigh she wasnt a woman and calling her a cu nt. If the others had ganged up on him and been horrible to him for no reason thats a different matter. And no way on earth was he bullied

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Literally don't care. Didn't miss him last night and 90% of the animosity towards him was in retaliation to him treating others like crap.

Tom is the only one I thought even strayed into 'bullying' behaviour by removing his bed. Kayleigh and Joe were a bit unreasonable towards him but it was after he clearly goaded them into reacting.

Bored to death of people acting like he was an innocent victim, get those rose tinted glasses off.

I think this might be the best post I've read in the past week