[jaxie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

It was a quote which I linked to.

Oh I guess that's all right then.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

The young, the tolerant, and the idealistic voted Labour. The old, the complacent, and the xenophobic voted Tory. This election was about two nations and two visions of what our society should be like

I wish people would be sure on their facts before accusing people of being xenophobic - it's ignorant.

You don't know people and have no right to make any such assumptions based on their concerns over large scale immigration. It's hardly as if immigration is working out well in most parts of Europe is it. But that of course is all down to the West.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I wish people would be sure on their facts before accusing people of being xenophobic - it's ignorant.

You don't know people and have no right to make any such assumptions based on their concerns over large scale immigration. It's hardly as if immigration is working out well in most parts of Europe is it. But that of course is all down to the West.

It's an OPINION... like yours on young people voting Labour. Don't be so hypocritical

[jet]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

The young, the tolerant, and the idealistic voted Labour. The old, the complacent, and the xenophobic voted Tory. This election was about two nations and two visions of what our society should be like

You are into tidy little compartments then? You've plummeted in my estimation.

[jet]

Corbyn reminds me of Neil Kinnock with his 'getting down with the cool kids' attention - seeking stunts.

[Tom4784]

When will Theresa May?

Jeremy Corbyn leaving his haters SHOOK.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Do I have to mention the elderly with Brexit? That was the very definition of gullible as people fell for Farage and Boris's bull**** that haven't come to pass and will never come to pass.

Corbyn's bull**** will never come to pass.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's an OPINION... like yours on young people voting Labour. Don't be so hypocritical

You speak of being hypocritical.

[parmnion]

On armed forces day as well.
Glad he has shown his suport for our brave defenders by spending it with some spaced out hippies.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by parmnion

On armed forces day as well.
Glad he has shown his suport for our brave defenders by spending it with some spaced out hippies.

https://www.armedforcesday.org.uk/

He is getting his priorities right - getting those young voters hooked - when is there a better time than when they are 'spaced out'. Gullible and spaced out in an atmosphere of hysteria - it's in the bag. Never mind our brave soldiers. Shame on hIm.

There are so many AF events he could have attended out of respect for what they do for this country but he preferred to go vote hunting for 'the next election'. Transparent or what.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

You speak of being hypocritical.

I do yes, why the mockery?

[jet]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

https://www.armedforcesday.org.uk/

He is getting his priorities right - getting those young voters hooked - when is there a better time than when they are 'spaced out'. Gullible and spaced out in an atmosphere of hysteria - it's in the bag. Never mind our brave soldiers. Shame on hIm.

There are so many AF events he could have attended out of respect for what they do for this country but he preferred to go vote hunting for 'the next election'. Transparent or what.

[Kizzy]

Every day is youth day and every day is forces day..... why is that so hard to understand?

[lime]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Exactly Brother Leon.
It's really tedious now this put down on the young.

No wonder there is a divide.

I agree with you Joey...I don't live in the UK.nor am I from the UK....but the way the British youth are patroinisesd is sad

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by parmnion

On armed forces day as well.
Glad he has shown his suport for our brave defenders by spending it with some spaced out hippies.

This govt shows its support by cutting the armed forces to the bone with even ex Soldiers unable to get other jobs and some even left homeless.

Bit hypocritical.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by jet

You are into tidy little compartments then? You've plummeted in my estimation.

Oh geez I'm devastated!
btw... do I know you?

[Northern Monkey]

You can't really fault him for his campaigning.It's what he's good at.He picked the right place for an echo chamber for sure.His revolution rhetoric is exciting for many.He probably will inspire more to vote with stuff like this.
You've gotta admire his determination.
Politics is on the move to the left now after the Tories have been inflicting their policies on us for the last seven years.It's how it goes.Politics is a pendulum.I think Labour will get into power possibly at next election or if not definitely the one after and we may have them for a decade or so and then the country will swing right again,then left again.

[Kizzy]

What is evident for me anyway that the same backlash and desire for investment in the countries social and industrial need is being felt after 7yrs of tory austerity as it was after both world wars..... :/

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

You can't really fault him for his campaigning.It's what he's good at.He picked the right place for an echo chamber for sure.His revolution rhetoric is exciting for many.He probably will inspire more to vote with stuff like this.
You've gotta admire his determination.
Politics is on the move to the left now after the Tories have been inflicting their policies on us for the last seven years.It's how it goes.Politics is a pendulum.I think Labour will get into power possibly at next election or if not definitely the one after and we may have them for a decade or so and then the country will swing right again,then left again.

I think the spin is very clever and whoever is advising him are doing a much better job than those advising May. However the thing I find disturbing is the fevered adoration in some quarters for team Corbyn, people don't seem to recognise spin for what it is. I'd like to see a strong potential labour government but it's not going to come via Corbyn hero worship.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I think the spin is very clever and whoever is advising him are doing a much better job than those advising May. However the thing I find disturbing is the fevered adoration in some quarters for team Corbyn, people don't seem to recognise spin for what it is. I'd like to see a strong potential labour government but it's not going to come via Corbyn hero worship.

You could say that for any party though with the spin.They're all at it.Mays "strong and stable" indoctrination tactics were'nt any better.It's what politicians do.

[DemolitionRed]

People had the same hero worship for Thatcher before she got in.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

You could say that for any party though with the spin.They're all at it.Mays "strong and stable" indoctrination tactics were'nt any better.It's what politicians do.

Yes of course they all spin. The worry is when people buy into the spin so much that there is an element of hero worship. This happened with Blair, at one point he could do no wrong, and look how that turned out.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

People had the same hero worship for Thatcher before she got in.

I'm not old enough to recall that. The only time I've seen it before was Blair.

[StephenPullen]

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

This govt shows its support by cutting the armed forces to the bone with even ex Soldiers unable to get other jobs and some even left homeless.

Bit hypocritical.

Moan about war then use cutting armed forces as a counter argument.


Corbyn turned down an invitation to meet veterans, instead he chose glastonbury and the kids.

He might be popular with the kids, but so was jimmy saville..