[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Withano

Well... yeh... do you really think he'd have this much fans if he befriended Lotan and Kayleigh instead of the exiles?

Who knows maybe,you talk as though they had no fan base ,they did,whoever Raph had befriended would have been ok on here.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Who knows maybe,you talk as though they had no fan base ,they did,whoever Raph had befriended would have been ok on here.

Well not youre just being silly. Thought you said your OP wasnt a baiting post.
Asking why people like him and then say the equivalent to 'people would have liked him regardless'. Super baity.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Withano

Well not youre just being silly. Thought you said your OP wasnt a baiting post.
Asking why people like him and then say the equivalent to 'people would have liked him regardless'. Super baity.

Not baity at all,but I should have known you would take it as so,it stands to reason,whoever Raph had befriended would have stood a better chance of being liked on here,now what is baiting about that ? talk about derailing a thread, don't worry so,i do like Raph.i didn't ask why people LIKED him either.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Not baity at all,but I should have known you would take it as so,it stands to reason,whoever Raph had befriended would have stood a better chance of being liked on here,now what is baiting about that ? talk about derailing a thread, don't worry so,i do like Raph.i didn't ask why people LIKED him either.

Sadly Kaz..you can't have a decent debate on here about Raph because you just get set upon and labelled a 'hater' or a 'baiter'....your post raised a good point and many have lost that point.
No one is perfect...I don't dislike him either but I get fed up with the way some people think the sun shines out of his arse...even Raph would admit he is not perfect.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I think he's a good Housemate. Much better than many in there. I don't think Charlotte is a great housemate, but again it's just my opinion. We all like different things in a housemate. I much prefer a quieter one to a loudmouth.

I seem to remember you championing Bear and saying the rest were bores so they shouldn't win, Bear was constantly providing entertainment and so on I only remember this as I loved Bear too but found both the OTT love AND the OTT hate for him so amusing and it seems to have stuck in my head.

Originally Posted by Vanessa

All we're seeing now is Sue and Simone. One of the reasons I want them out. Them two screeching isn't my idea of entertaining. I want to see the normal conversations happening around them.

again, Bear. Nothing else needs to be said

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Sadly Kaz..you can't have a decent debate on here about Raph because you just get set upon and labelled a 'hater' or a 'baiter'....your post raised a good point and many have lost that point.
No one is perfect...I don't dislike him either but I get fed up with the way some people think the sun shines out of his arse...even Raph would admit he is not perfect.

Yup. This has been a huge problem this year and we have tried to sort it but it seems to be getting worse so bans will have to be given soon as warnings aren't working clearly. I do not understand how posting a negative thread is 'purposely picking' or 'looking for faults' or something. And those going from thread to thread just saying, for example, 'another raph hate thread' are really getting annoying now as so many warnings have been given yet are totally ignored. Please just report any of this that you see on the forum as it is a rule break and people need to learn to actually discuss BB rather than shut others down for not worshiping certain housemates tbh

[Littlegreen]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I seem to remember you championing Bear and saying the rest were bores so they shouldn't win, Bear was constantly providing entertainment and so on I only remember this as I loved Bear too but found both the OTT love AND the OTT hate for him so amusing and it seems to have stuck in my head.

again, Bear. Nothing else needs to be said



Yup. This has been a huge problem this year and we have tried to sort it but it seems to be getting worse so bans will have to be given soon as warnings aren't working clearly. I do not understand how posting a negative thread is 'purposely picking' or 'looking for faults' or something. And those going from thread to thread just saying, for example, 'another raph hate thread' are really getting annoying now as so many warnings have been given yet are totally ignored. Please just report any of this that you see on the forum as it is a rule break and people need to learn to actually discuss BB rather than shut others down for not worshiping certain housemates tbh

But those are opinions. So wishing to oppose certain repetitive views will get a warning?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

But those are opinions. So wishing to oppose certain repetitive views will get a warning?

When the same few people are going thread to thread saying nothing but 'oh look another raph hate thread' its just spam. It adds nothing at all to the forum and this rule has been in place since before Raph entered the house.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I seem to remember you championing Bear and saying the rest were bores so they shouldn't win, Bear was constantly providing entertainment and so on I only remember this as I loved Bear too but found both the OTT love AND the OTT hate for him so amusing and it seems to have stuck in my head.

again, Bear. Nothing else needs to be said



Yup. This has been a huge problem this year and we have tried to sort it but it seems to be getting worse so bans will have to be given soon as warnings aren't working clearly. I do not understand how posting a negative thread is 'purposely picking' or 'looking for faults' or something. And those going from thread to thread just saying, for example, 'another raph hate thread' are really getting annoying now as so many warnings have been given yet are totally ignored. Please just report any of this that you see on the forum as it is a rule break and people need to learn to actually discuss BB rather than shut others down for not worshiping certain housemates tbh

A great post overall.

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I seem to remember you championing Bear and saying the rest were bores so they shouldn't win, Bear was constantly providing entertainment and so on I only remember this as I loved Bear too but found both the OTT love AND the OTT hate for him so amusing and it seems to have stuck in my head.

again, Bear. Nothing else needs to be said



Yup. This has been a huge problem this year and we have tried to sort it but it seems to be getting worse so bans will have to be given soon as warnings aren't working clearly. I do not understand how posting a negative thread is 'purposely picking' or 'looking for faults' or something. And those going from thread to thread just saying, for example, 'another raph hate thread' are really getting annoying now as so many warnings have been given yet are totally ignored. Please just report any of this that you see on the forum as it is a rule break and people need to learn to actually discuss BB rather than shut others down for not worshiping certain housemates tbh

Well said Vicky. It's kind of getting tiring when people are just posting "no, don't hate on (insert favourite)". That's not a discussion.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I seem to remember you championing Bear and saying the rest were bores so they shouldn't win, Bear was constantly providing entertainment and so on I only remember this as I loved Bear too but found both the OTT love AND the OTT hate for him so amusing and it seems to have stuck in my head.

again, Bear. Nothing else needs to be said



Yup. This has been a huge problem this year and we have tried to sort it but it seems to be getting worse so bans will have to be given soon as warnings aren't working clearly. I do not understand how posting a negative thread is 'purposely picking' or 'looking for faults' or something. And those going from thread to thread just saying, for example, 'another raph hate thread' are really getting annoying now as so many warnings have been given yet are totally ignored. Please just report any of this that you see on the forum as it is a rule break and people need to learn to actually discuss BB rather than shut others down for not worshiping certain housemates tbh

Bear was funny.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Paula D

Well said Vicky. It's kind of getting tiring when people are just posting "no, don't hate on (insert favourite)". That's not a discussion.

Indeed.

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

Yes and it has been ridiculous.

I'm shocked the warnings are given to those trying to curb the tedium.

Its not trying to 'curb the tedium'. Its trying to shut down those who dislike a housemate that you like. Do you really think that, for example, someone coming into this thread right now and saying 'oh look, the OP is at it again. Another hate thread about raph' is adding anything to the discussion? Can you not see how this is baiting and unnecessary really?!

For the record, its also against the rules the opposite way. If someone was going into every positive raph thread saying 'oh look, yet another love in' and nowt else, that would also be baiting and spam.

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Bear was funny.

Yes he was

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Sadly Kaz..you can't have a decent debate on here about Raph because you just get set upon and labelled a 'hater' or a 'baiter'....your post raised a good point and many have lost that point.
No one is perfect...I don't dislike him either but I get fed up with the way some people think the sun shines out of his arse...even Raph would admit he is not perfect.

Exactly rusti it was not a hate thread or a baiting thread, just why is Raph seen as a good housemate and worthy winner when similar people to him are called names etc and need to go I like him,but I can see he is just sauntering along.