[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Most Vts exaggerate and few live up to their Vts anyway.

Raph's actions have been better than his VT may have suggested.
He has stuck solidly with Chanelle as a friend,always standing up for her in a calm reasoned way.

Charlotte judges class,status and intelligence of like minded people to be the basis of friendship.

Rubbish, who is anyone to say who or why someone should not be friends they've chosen to be with someone.
I keep saying,that's the worst kind of snobbery,pathetic.

I've no time for people who think that way and hey am I glad I don't too.

He's said himself in his VT and in the house he struggles to befriend and have conversations with people who talk a lot about sex and offer no intellect, no shade at Chanelle but I'm not sure how she's passing his standards.

I think this is what Charlotte was also questioning.

[sungrass]

Charlotte wouldnt pour water on you if you were on fire. She is a snob - she is a pretty girl that never needed to develop a personality for attention. She is like a card board cut out human - if they just had a cardboard cut out of her sun bathing for entire episode I doubt anyone would notice its actually not her.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by sungrass

Charlotte wouldnt pour water on you if you were on fire. She is a snob - she is a pretty girl that never needed to develop a personality for attention. She is like a card board cut out human - if they just had a cardboard cut out of her sun bathing for entire episode I doubt anyone would notice its actually not her.

she actually would love me for having liked her on BB, she's just not the regular BB sort of housemate


but it's okay for you thinking like this

[jet]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

He's said himself in his VT and in the house he struggles to befriend and have conversations with people who talk a lot about sex and offer no intellect, no shade at Chanelle but I'm not sure how she's passing his standards.

I think this is what Charlotte was also questioning.

Introverted people who find it hard to get themselves heard often gravitate towards loud extroverts like Chanelle, being close with them gets the quiet one noticed by association.
Raph often points out that people have Chenelle wrong, that she is so kind and smart etc, but it could be that he is over - stressing those qualities as an excuse as to why he is such friends with her when he knows many will wonder why his best buddy in there is a type he has said he wouldn't want to befriend.
I like Raph, and of course his friendship with her could be genuine, but just a thought I had.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

He's said himself in his VT and in the house he struggles to befriend and have conversations with people who talk a lot about sex and offer no intellect, no shade at Chanelle but I'm not sure how she's passing his standards.

I think this is what Charlotte was also questioning.

Chanelle may not talk about those things to Raph though.
How do you know she has.

Clearly they have talked a lot together in there that we've never seen or are likely to.
As his defending her to Sue the other night suggested.

[Robodog]

Charlotte put it badly when she tried to explain the differences between Raph and Chanelle. Anyone can see their friendship is not real, it's purely tactical for the sake of BB.

Raph thrives on intellectual stimulation and talks quietly. He is a peaceful person. He isn't a physical person, he hates people touching him as he has mentioned a few times. He also hates crude and derogatory language. He often complains when people (like Lotan) talk crudely.

Chanelle is very loud and is all about herself, her ego and not about intellectual conversation. She is an aggressive person (opposite of Raph). She is also a very physical person, both in dress and in her manner. As for crude, derogatory language she is more graphic in her sex talk than probably any BB housemate EVER! Yet Raph never complains about HER crudeness like he does with the 'other group'. Why? Because he is USING HER, just as she is happy to go along with it and USE HIM too.

It's all BS

Charlotte can see through it. She just put it badly when she mentioned him being a city financial consultant as a way to try and explain the gap. Truth is, it's not about class or money (as Charlotte ALSO SAID) but Chanelle is pretty much everything Raph dislikes in others, so he must be using her.

Don't forget Raph's BOTS audition video where he said he 'has a friendly face and smile which he uses to manipulate people' and also how he loves nothing more than to 'crush the souls of the popular kids'.

He aint genuine. And Chanelle is every bit as slippery and self-serving as Raph is. But in a much more loud and aggressive way.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Robodog

Charlotte put it badly when she tried to explain the differences between Raph and Chanelle. Anyone can see their friendship is not real, it's purely tactical for the sake of BB.

Raph thrives on intellectual stimulation and talks quietly. He is a peaceful person. He isn't a physical person, he hates people touching him as he has mentioned a few times. He also hates crude and derogatory language. He often complains when people (like Lotan) talk crudely.

Chanelle is very loud and is all about herself, her ego and not about intellectual conversation. She is an aggressive person (opposite of Raph). She is also a very physical person, both in dress and in her manner. As for crude, derogatory language she is more graphic in her sex talk than probably any BB housemate EVER! Yet Raph never complains about HER crudeness like he does with the 'other group'. Why? Because he is USING HER, just as she is happy to go along with it and USE HIM too.

It's all BS

Charlotte can see through it. She just put it badly when she mentioned him being a city financial consultant as a way to try and explain the gap. Truth is, it's not about class or money (as Charlotte ALSO SAID) but Chanelle is pretty much everything Raph dislikes in others, so he must be using her.

Don't forget Raph's BOTS audition video where he said he 'has a friendly face and smile which he uses to manipulate people' and also how he loves nothing more than to 'crush the souls of the popular kids'.

He aint genuine. And Chanelle is every bit as slippery and self-serving as Raph is. But in a much more loud and aggressive way.

great post

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Robodog

Charlotte put it badly when she tried to explain the differences between Raph and Chanelle. Anyone can see their friendship is not real, it's purely tactical for the sake of BB.

Raph thrives on intellectual stimulation and talks quietly. He is a peaceful person. He isn't a physical person, he hates people touching him as he has mentioned a few times. He also hates crude and derogatory language. He often complains when people (like Lotan) talk crudely.

Chanelle is very loud and is all about herself, her ego and not about intellectual conversation. She is an aggressive person (opposite of Raph). She is also a very physical person, both in dress and in her manner. As for crude, derogatory language she is more graphic in her sex talk than probably any BB housemate EVER! Yet Raph never complains about HER crudeness like he does with the 'other group'. Why? Because he is USING HER, just as she is happy to go along with it and USE HIM too.

It's all BS

Charlotte can see through it. She just put it badly when she mentioned him being a city financial consultant as a way to try and explain the gap. Truth is, it's not about class or money (as Charlotte ALSO SAID) but Chanelle is pretty much everything Raph dislikes in others, so he must be using her.

Don't forget Raph's BOTS audition video where he said he 'has a friendly face and smile which he uses to manipulate people' and also how he loves nothing more than to 'crush the souls of the popular kids'.

He aint genuine. And Chanelle is every bit as slippery and self-serving as Raph is. But in a much more loud and aggressive way.

You are making some great posts today

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You are making some great posts today

Cheers Cherie

Good to have your wise head on board and seeing sense!