[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Raph himself doesn't believe in love. But he's happy for Chanelle having found love. I think he values friendship love more. But he's still young, so he could find love himself one day.

That's the way I see it too.

I doubt at best more than a few housemates have stuck to what they said in their VT.
In all series of BB.

Still it's funny I guess all the anti Raph force out again, wondering why anyone takes a deeper look at what was meant.

There are many kinds of love, what Chanelle is being in love.
Raph said he's not a believer in love, even taking that view as Gospel,does not mean he may not still value some kind of love over money.

Of course those anti Raph will never consider any motive of his positive.
Then we get slated for defending him from a more positive perspective of him.

As if we just should listen to the endless anti purges towards him and sit in a corner agreeing.
No way,not at all.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

That's the way I see it too.

I doubt at best mote than a few housemates have stuck to what they said in their VT.
In all series of BB.

Still it's funny I guess all the anti Raph force out again, wondering why anyone takes a deeper look at what was meant.

There are many kinds of love, what Chanelle is being in love.
Raph said he's not a believer in love, even taking that view as Gospel,does not mean he may not still value some kind of love over money.

Of course those anti Raph will never consider any motive of his positive.
Then we get slated for defending him from a more positive perspective of him.

As if we just should listen to the endless anti purges towards him and sit in a corner agreeing.
No way,not at all.

I agree. But I think he himself could meet someone special and fall in love. Ta lest I hope so

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I agree. But I think he himself could meet someone special and fall in love. Ta lest I hope so

I would guess he will but with being in love brings commitment.

That can be a good or scary thing to some.
It is more scary to me so I avoid that commitment at present.
So for me,maybe that is where Raph is coming from too.

What he has said and to Chanelle does not necessarily signify a contradiction at all,unless nothing else is really looked for as to any deeper reasoning.

[Ellen]

I took it to mean he views being in love as a weakness rather than having love for a family member or friend.

I dont like him as a HM much but i dont think this is something to beat him with tbh.

[chuff me dizzy]

He will say anything he thinks will win him the show ....Slimeball !!

[Denver]

He is destined to live a lonely life

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ellen

I took it to mean he views being in love as a weakness rather than having love for a family member or friend.

I dont like him as a HM much but i dont think this is something to beat him with tbh.

Very fair of you Ellen to say and contribute that.

That is how I take it too.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Adam.

He is destined to live a lonely life

Why, I'm 25 but feel much the same as he appears to.

I may alter my thinking as years go by as Raph possibly may too.

I know in family or just generally single people who seem perfectly happy and have loads of friends.
I equally know people married who walk around as if they had the world on their shoulders and are often really miserable.

Depends on the individual, it doesn't have to be that everyone to not be lonely has to be in fully committed relationships.
To some that can lead to unhappiness and loneliness just as for others it brings near total happiness.

[Mitchell]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Raph himself doesn't believe in love. But he's happy for Chanelle having found love. I think he values friendship love more. But he's still young, so he could find love himself one day.

Exactly this, I am similar, I have hope, but I am more pessimistic, but if a friend is in love I couldn't be happier for them!

[Littlegreen]

"The power of love a force from above..."

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I agree. But I think he himself could meet someone special and fall in love. Ta lest I hope so

He has a wonderful track record in relationships..like cheating numerous times.

He will never find love and diminishes it because he hasnt got a clue what it is..

[Niamh.]

Housemate in Lied in their VT shocker

[Lewismacfarlane]

He said he was only in for the experience but was quick enough to hit the button for money

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Lewismacfarlane

He said he was only in for the experience but was quick enough to hit the button for money

During the task? trying to win tasks is a big part of the experience though

[Shaun]

he LIED IN HIS VT?!?!?!?!?!!?

[Littlegreen]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

During the task? trying to win tasks is a big part of the experience though

It's like banging your head against a wall sometimes, isn't it?

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

It's like banging your head against a wall sometimes, isn't it?

What is? Blindly defending your fav no matter what they do? Yes it is I suppose. Only so many ways you can twist things in his favour.

[Jordan.]

Did he even lie in his VT? Watching it back he's pretty much shared the same views in the house.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Paula D

What is? Blindly defending your fav no matter what they do? Yes it is I suppose. Only so many ways you can twist things in his favour.

Well said.

[Littlegreen]

Originally Posted by Paula D

What is? Blindly defending your fav no matter what they do? Yes it is I suppose. Only so many ways you can twist things in his favour.

When something that is quite simple/harmless, gets twisted to serve a certain negative connotation. That's what becomes monotonous.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

When something that is quite simple/harmless, gets twisted to serve a certain negative connotation. That's what becomes monotonous.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Housemate in Lied in their VT shocker

Shocking indeed

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Paula D

What is? Blindly defending your fav no matter what they do? Yes it is I suppose. Only so many ways you can twist things in his favour.

Blindly getting at someone for pathetic non events is also tiresome.
Do we just have to let you and the rest of them that applaud posts like yours, just grind someone into the mud and say nothing.

What's the point of BB and having and supporting favourites at all if we have to shut up, while others spill their unfair bile in thread after thread, getting applauded for it too.

[Niamh.]

Can you all please keep it about the HMs and not eachother please, anymore of that in this thread and I'll be infracting people

[Niamh.]

Thread closed people cannot seem to keep discussions about HMs