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Old 14-08-2017, 12:43 PM #151
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It says a lot when people are more concerned with the use of the word 'bigot' and if it applies to the nazi terrorist in question then they are with the fact that they've murdered someone.
He's a terrorist scumbag, just call him that.

That's what we call the people who killed the 112 people in Europe last year, by running them over with trucks and cars.

Every person on Earth is bigoted in some way in life, but we're not all terrorists.
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I honestly don't understand this response. A car crashed into people, and the only response white wing posters can be bothered with is is "WHAT ABOUT BLM DOE, SOME OF THEM DO VIOLENCE" Yes, some do, however, it was a white supremacist who commited a terror attack yestereday, in an American town, against non-violent protesters. Yes, we know that posters on here aren't Nazis, but we expect you to have some what of a normal human response to the murder of an innocent woman who was protesting against White Supremacists. I mean its a no ****ing brainer for ****s sake.
Then why not just denounce the scumbag who killed that lady, instead of classing him with a whole group of people? He may or may not have belonged to a white supremist group, or he could just have been a nutjob who had his own agenda? This blaming a race/group for the actions of one person is what's wrong.
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He may or may not have belonged to a white supremist group, or he could just have been a nutjob who had his own agenda? This blaming a race/group for the actions of one person is what's wrong.
Err yeah guys let's not go tarring all white supremacists with the same brush... it's wrong to blame the nice, friendly white supremacists for the actions of the bad white supremacists.

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Err yeah guys let's not go tarring all white supremacists with the same brush...
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Then why not just denounce the scumbag who killed that lady, instead of classing him with a whole group of people? He may or may not have belonged to a white supremist group, or he could just have been a nutjob who had his own agenda? This blaming a race/group for the actions of one person is what's wrong.
Because the same groups have commited numerous acts.
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It seems so clear to me that the Black Lives Matter were the ones trying to provoke a fight in this video. For those too patient go to about the 5:30 minute mark that's when things get brutal.


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They're just as bad as antifa who were apparently pulling knives on people.From what i heard the Unite The Right protest was apparently legal.They had a permit for it but leftist groups were trying to get it shut down by turning it violent.Then that crazy white nationalist did what he did.Crazy over there atm.
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I think there might be something to this. If the driver wanted to cause the most deaths why drive into the back of a car? Driving directly into the crowd would have maximized deaths. But driving into the back minimizes deaths and maximizes the possibility that the driver will be hurt. It doesn't make sense.
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Keep looking to excuse the scummy racist murderer !

If he panicked and it was accidental he would have been charged with, at most, 'vehicular manslaughter' (i believe that's the term they use in the US).
He wasn't. He's was charged with second degree murder and attempting to flee the scene.

The ''baseball bat'' thing is his main 'evidence' yet it's clearly a jacket and the driver had already accelerated down the street initially by this point (which can be seenin the other viewpoint videos). That's why the person swings his jacket at the car in an attempt to slow him down.

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why do you keep supporting nazi's scum
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When there are factions seeking to oppress, repress or suppress you would think it would be the duty of civilised societies to address those, yet the alt right grows and grows is it any wonder there are counter factions forming to hit back?...
I'm not condoning violence on either side make no mistake yet it has to be said it was only a matter of time before a counter offensive was formed who are willing to use the same tactics and or violence.
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I fear that due to recent terrorism, driving cars into people is becoming a trend for anyone with anger and agenda. Now the idea is out there this will happen again and again.
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I fear that due to recent terrorism, driving cars into people is becoming a trend for anyone with anger and agenda. Now the idea is out there this will happen again and again.
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Imagine trying to justify supporting nazis.
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The courts will decide, that said why have the car in gear and accelerate at all?
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I'd say highly unlikely.Why would anybody be driving towards a protest in the first place?
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I don't think this justifies Nazis.I don't think most of the right wing protesters there were Nazis or KKK but right wing who were protesting the removal of the monuments.Just as many of the left there weren't from BLM and Antifa.
The extreme arseholes(right and left)turned up and turned the whole thing into a disgraceful scene.
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Yes also its America



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not surprised this OP is trying to excuse the driver's actions. Probably built a shrine for him.
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A fourth executive has quit Donald Trump's American Manufacturing Council amid criticism of the president's response to a violent rally.

Alliance for American Manufacturing president Scott Paul said on Twitter he was stepping down "because it's the right thing for me to do".

He follows Intel's Brian Krzanich, Under Armour head Kevin Plank and Merck's Ken Frazier.

A woman died when a car rammed into protesters in Virginia on Saturday.

Mr Trump was widely rebuked for his initial response for not specifically denouncing the far right, instead ascribing blame to "many sides".

Bowing to pressure, the president issued a statement on Monday calling the Ku Klux Klan, neo-Nazis and white supremacists "repugnant" to everything Americans held dear.

"Racism is evil and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs," he told reporters.

He tweeted on Tuesday: "For every CEO that drops out of the Manufacturing Council, I have many to take their place. Grandstanders should not have gone on. JOBS!"

Mr Plank sent out a tweet on Monday condemning racism.

"We are saddened by #Charlottesville. There is no place for racism or discrimination in this world. We choose love & unity."

Ten hours later Mr Plank released another statement on Under Armour's Twitter account announcing his resignation from the advisory body.

"I love our country and our company and will continue to focus my efforts on inspiring every person that they can do anything through the power of sport which promotes unity, diversity and inclusion."

Soon after, Mr Krzanich announced in a blog post on Intel's website that he too was leaving the council "to call attention to the serious harm our divided political climate is causing to critical issues, including the serious need to address the decline of American manufacturing".

"Politics and political agendas have sidelined the important mission of rebuilding America's manufacturing base."

In an earlier tweet, he had also said "there should be no hesitation in condemning hate speech or white supremacy by name".

Both men in the past have expressed some admiration for Mr Trump.

Their resignations followed the departure of Ken Frazier, the head of drugs giant Merck, and one of only a handful of black leaders of Fortune 500 companies, on Monday morning.

Mr Frazier said: "I feel a responsibility to take a stand against intolerance and extremism."

"America's leaders must honour our fundamental views by clearly rejecting expressions of hatred, bigotry and group supremacy, which run counter to the American ideal that all people are created equal."

In response, Mr Trump tweeted that Mr Frazier would now have "more time to lower rip off drug prices".

In January, Mr Trump had called on pharmaceutical companies to cut "astronomical" drug prices.

Other company heads have previously stepped down from presidential advisory councils in protest at Mr Trump's policies.

Former Uber chief executive Travis Kalanick left the Business Advisory Council in February over the Trump administration's immigration policies.

Tesla's chief executive Elon Musk and Walt Disney's chief executive Robert Iger left the President's Strategic and Policy Forum in June, after Mr Trump said he would withdraw from the Paris climate accord.

Mr Musk also left the manufacturing council.

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Took Trump 54 minutes to criticise Mercx CEO Ken Fasier when he resigned from the council yesterday, yet took Trump 2 days to effectively criticise the Nazi element at the rally on Saturday. Judging by his latest tweets Trump seems to imply he made his 2nd statement to keep people happy and complains they still are not happy.

Now two more have gone and Trump has again been quick to criticise them. When he's motivated he doesnt hesitate to take to twitter and attack. Why did it take two days to criticise the Nazi elemnt at the rally?
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I'd say highly unlikely.Why would anybody be driving towards a protest in the first place?
Because they're racist and it was intentional?
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