[Northern Monkey]

I realise that there is literally mounds of **** on the internet on this subject and some absolutely wild and unbelievable conspiracy theories.I have no agenda on this topic and was reluctant to make a thread on it but thought it might be an interesting discussion for SD.
I don't believe the theories but i think there are maybe questions unanswered?
Anyway i saw this vid of a US Army Generals story of how he went from being staunchly patriotic and a full believer of the official story to veering the opposite way from his own personal questions.I googled this guy and he seems legit -

'Albert "Bert" Newton Stubblebine III (February 6, 1930 – February 6, 2017)[1] was a United States Army major general whose active duty career spanned 32 years. Beginning as an armor officer, he later transferred to intelligence. He is credited with redesigning the U.S. Army intelligence architecture during his time as commanding general of the U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM) from 1981 to 1984, after which he retired from active service.'


What does SD think of this?

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[JTM45]

You do know this is the same guy (Stubblebine) who started those 'Psychic Soldiers' units and was convinced people could walk through solid walls and stop peoples/animals hearts with their minds right ?
'The Men Who Stare at Goats' and all that stuff. There is an excellent three part Channel 4 documentary from around 2004 called ''Crazy Rulers of the World''.

I'm pretty sure that there was far more to the whole 9/11 thing than a bunch of guys hijacking planes and crashing them into the Towers. There's just far too many irregularities and everything went way too much ''to plan''. Evidence (steel from the buildings) was literally shipped to China as recyclables. The precision of the 'hijackers' flying was remarkable. Seasoned pilots would have struggled to do the same. And that's just scatching the surface.

As for this guy..............he's 'eccentric' to put it mildly.

[Northern Monkey]

I didn't know that about this guy

I agree that alot of the questions regarding 9/11 are legitimate.Tower seven seems extremely dodgy.It's the only high rise ever in history to come down due to"office fires" and it had nothing impact it.Even Grenfell stayed up which was a much older building.Also firemen i think were heard saying things like 'they're bringing it down'.
The way it came down uniformly at free fall speed too rather than one side collapse first.

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I didn't know that about this guy

I agree that alot of the questions regarding 9/11 are legitimate.Tower seven seems extremely dodgy.It's the only high rise ever in history to come down due to"office fires" and it had nothing impact it.Even Grenfell stayed up which was a much older building.Also firemen i think were heard saying things like 'they're bringing it down'.
The way it came down uniformly at free fall speed too rather than one side collapse first.

Northern Monkey, you are quite right to be suspicious of Building 7. British viewers may be astonished in watching this television show which aired on American television months before 9/11. Many believe that the elite get a thrill out of telling us (through media and entertainment) what they are going to do to us or did to us.

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[arista]

9/11
lead by Atta
those Evil Arab Terrorist men were in Florida but
only needed to learn how to fly straight, not land , not take off.Then months later

Ready for Early NYC City Morning
Attack 9/11

A french crew filming the NYC fire men team
caught the first plane going in.

Then all TV worldwide showed the horror
as they went up inflames
melting the Steel in that twin towers


FACTS


Stop making silly threads Liberty
Deal only in true facts.........

[JTM45]

That's just the party line Arista and you're voicing these ''facts'' as your opinion. Ignore all the inconsistencies if you will.
So you're saying that these 'hijackers' got the pilots to point the planes directly at the towers and then just flew them in a straight line until the impacts ? Absolute rubbish!!!

There's so much evidence that there was prior evidence that this was going to happen.

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by arista

9/11
lead by Atta
those Evil Arab Terrorist men were in Florida but
only needed to learn how to fly straight, not land , not take off.Then months later

Ready for Early NYC City Morning
Attack 9/11

A french crew filming the NYC fire men team
caught the first plane going in.

Then all TV worldwide showed the horror
as they went up inflames
melting the Steel in that twin towers


FACTS


Stop making silly threads Liberty
Deal only in true facts.........

Arista, you can think my threads are silly but I am very comfortable in my opinions because they do come from facts. I began to study 9/11 in around 2007ish (listening to both sides) and it was a couple of years before I realized that elements of the government actively helped 9/11 happen (and probably orchestrated the whole thing).

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Arista, you can think my threads are silly but I am very comfortable in my opinions because they do come from facts. I began to study 9/11 in around 2007ish (listening to both sides) and it was a couple of years before I realized that elements of the government actively helped 9/11 happen (and probably orchestrated the whole thing).

Do you think they also faked the first attack on the WTC in 1993? or do you believe that attack really was orchestrated by Osama bin laden?

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Do you think they also faked the first attack on the WTC in 1993? or do you believe that attack really was orchestrated by Osama bin laden?

I don't believe Tim Osman (google it) orchestrated the 1993 attack.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Do you think they also faked the first attack on the WTC in 1993? or do you believe that attack really was orchestrated by Osama bin laden?

Osama Bin Laden (according to the U.S. Government themselves) had absolutely no connection to the WTC truck bomb incident.
He didn't even 'declare war' on the US until 1996.

[Northern Monkey]

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[thesheriff443]

If you look at at the Grenfell tower fire, 85 people killed by a faulty fridge, faulty or cheap materials used caused a fire that no one had seen before and telling people to stay cost people their lives, same as the twin towers, no one believed they would collapse, that's why people where told to stay put and the fire crews went in.

Flying a small plane is pretty much the same as flying a big plane, plus the goal was to crash not land safely, who would think movie star john Travolta is a fully qualified 747 pilot!.

[Northern Monkey]

What does everyone think of this?....

For this building to fall at freefall speed in its own footprint with no resistance all the supporting beams would have to be severed at the same time.
Firemen were heard saying 'They're gonna blow it up' and 'they're bringing it down' also.

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