[Brillopad]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ium-eu-no-deal

Oops, messed up the heading and entered in error. The heading was supposed to say ‘On a bright note’!

No significant changes in the opinions of Brexiteers according to the above poll. Indeed even some remainers can see the benefits of it. Unlike all the psychological scaremongering by some on here and elsewhere to try and convince us otherwise. Pleased to say they are fooling no-one.

[Withano]

But there are significant changes in the opinions of brexiteers according to the poll above? What an odd conclusion to make. They are significantly more pessimistic about the outcome, and, on the whole, they believe it is being handled badly by May. Thats a whole new level of selective reading.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

But there are significant changes in the opinions of brexiteers according to the poll above? What an odd conclusion to make. They are significantly more pessimistic about the outcome, and, on the whole, they believe it is being handled badly by May. Thats a whole new level of selective reading.

Yes they believe it is being handled badly, show me where I said otherwise, but there has been no significant change in peoples’ opinions on Brexit. Not so long ago on here there were those claiming otherwise.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

but there has been no significant change in peoples’ opinions on Brexit.

You literally just posted a link which supports the opposite of this. If you're gonna spam the forum, at least read up on what you're spamming about.

[smudgie]

It is an interesting read.
Although some brexiteers now realise it won't be an easy exit it is good to see that it hasn't changed their minds about leaving.
I think in general people who voted either way just want to see this all sorted now, it is all the unknown circumstances that make business and such jittery.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by smudgie

It is an interesting read.
Although some brexiteers now realise it won't be an easy exit it is good to see that it hasn't changed their minds about leaving.
I think in general people who voted either way just want to see this all sorted now, it is all the unknown circumstances that make business and such jittery.

That was my point really. Thank you smudgie.

[Tom4784]

Probably because the biggest shift in opinion happened in the aftermath of the vote when a lot of the cornerstone arguments of the Brexit campaign were revealed to be bull****. Anybody who didn't change their mind then are probably too stubborn to do so now.

[user104658]

From Brillo's article:

If we ask about how they would vote in a second straight Remain/Leave referendum, 91% of Remainers and 88% of Leavers would stick to their 2016 vote.

Official stats from 2016:

Leave -- 17,410,742 -- 51.89%
Remain -- 16,141,241 -- 48.11%
Valid votes 33,551,983


Official Electoral Commission EU Referendum - Electorate and Count Information

... I'll do the maths for you lazy buggers.


Leave total = 17,410,742, loses 12% of total (2,089,289) and gains 9% of remain total (1,452,711)
New Leave Total = 17410742 - 2089289 + 1452711

= 16,774,164

Remain total = 16,141,241, loses 9% of total (1,452,711) and gains 12% of leave total (2,089,289)
New Remain Total = 16141241 - 1452711 + 2089289

= 16,777,819



Total voters = 33,551,983

New Leave Total %age = 49.994%

New Remain Total %age = 50.006%


Britain votes REMAIN by 3,655 votes. Oh my. Not Brillo outing the fact that the country has switched to Remain .

[Scarlett.]

Nothing bright about the catastrophic mess that May and the Tories are making of Brexit. They need to be gone already.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

From Brillo's article:



Official stats from 2016:



... I'll do the maths for you lazy buggers.


Leave total = 17,410,742, loses 12% of total (2,089,289) and gains 9% of remain total (1,452,711)
New Leave Total = 17410742 - 2089289 + 1452711

= 16,774,164

Remain total = 16,141,241, loses 9% of total (1,452,711) and gains 12% of leave total (2,089,289)
New Remain Total = 16141241 - 1452711 + 2089289

= 16,777,819



Total voters = 33,551,983

New Leave Total %age = 49.994%

New Remain Total %age = 50.006%


Britain votes REMAIN by 3,655 votes. Oh my. Not Brillo outing the fact that the country has switched to Remain .

Lol. Excellent spot.

[jaxie]

We had a vote, anything else is just speculation.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

From Brillo's article:



Official stats from 2016:



... I'll do the maths for you lazy buggers.


Leave total = 17,410,742, loses 12% of total (2,089,289) and gains 9% of remain total (1,452,711)
New Leave Total = 17410742 - 2089289 + 1452711

= 16,774,164

Remain total = 16,141,241, loses 9% of total (1,452,711) and gains 12% of leave total (2,089,289)
New Remain Total = 16141241 - 1452711 + 2089289

= 16,777,819



Total voters = 33,551,983

New Leave Total %age = 49.994%

New Remain Total %age = 50.006%


Britain votes REMAIN by 3,655 votes. Oh my. Not Brillo outing the fact that the country has switched to Remain .

No significant change then.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

No significant change then.

It's not significant that the majority of people would now vote the other way and there would be no Brexit? OK.

[DemolitionRed]

The interesting thing about Brexit (at least for me) is the loss of confidence in the Conservative party and without confidence, there is no strategy. Its as though they’ve forgotten what Tory rule is…. What are their goals? What are they about and Why are they all bickering? Without the EU running the corridors of power, the Tories are nothing more than a party that’s lost its way. They are truly floundering.

Am I happy I voted out? yes. Am I happy about the way Brexit is going? No, because the Tories aren’t considering industrial interest at all. They don’t know how to exist without the EU neoliberal packaging. They are still desperate to protect wealth at the expense of everyone else.

A coalition should be driving us towards Brexit, not just a party that only existed because of the EU.

I believe exiting the EU will see an end to this present model of the Tory party but we are all going to suffer their appalling mismanagement during the exit.