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Old 04-01-2018, 03:33 PM #76
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...which has nothing to do with sexuality
Load of BS but to please you I will change my wording ..... No 3 yr old has the capacity to think "Im in the wrong body"
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Load of BS but to please you I will change my wording ..... No 3 yr old has the capacity to think "Im in the wrong body"
It's not a load of BS; it is a fact. And yes they do.
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Load of BS but to please you I will change my wording ..... No 3 yr old has the capacity to think "Im in the wrong body"
I mean it's not BS, it's meaning of words, but anyway, she's stated herself that she had those thoughts at around the age of 3, many transexual people actually state the same, and there's a lot of evidence to show that most children as young as 3 are aware of what gender is and what their own gender is.
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It's not a load of BS; it is a fact. And yes they do.
How many 3 yr olds have you had ? Children are sponges they take in what the parents are ramming down their necks daily ,I know that no 3 yr old even thinks about what body they are in be it the right one or "wrong one"
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I mean it's not BS, it's meaning of words, but anyway, she's stated herself that she had those thoughts at around the age of 3, many transexual people actually state the same, and there's a lot of evidence to show that most children as young as 3 are aware of what gender is and what their own gender is.
She can state what she likes it doesn't mean we all have to believe it
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How many 3 yr olds have you had ? Children are sponges they take in what the parents are ramming down their necks daily ,I know that no 3 yr old even thinks about what body they are in be it the right one or "wrong one"
I haven't had any kids sis but, believe it or not, I was actually a child myself once, and I remember knowing I was different somehow (i.e gay) when I was about 4. (which is slightly different from gender identity but hopefully you get my point.)

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She can state what she likes it doesn't mean we all have to believe it
Why would she lie? Why are you so convinced she's being dishonest?
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My son played with his sisters dolls and my daughter played with her brothers cars ,didn't make either of them in the "wrong body "or gay or lesbian ,it made them children playing !! Ive seen programmes where pushy parents have dressed TODDLERS in the opposite sex clothing claiming the toddlers are happier wearing them
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My son played with his sisters dolls and my daughter played with her brothers cars ,didn't make either of them in the "wrong body "or gay or lesbian ,it made them children playing !! Ive seen programmes where pushy parents have dressed TODDLERS in the opposite sex clothing claiming the toddlers are happier wearing them
Your experiences don't equate to every person on earth
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If she knew she was in the wrong body she should have done something about it BEFORE she married and had a son, it makes a mockery of it all
I think she was probably worried about being ostracised by the people she loved so she conformed to soceital norms out of fear of attitudes like yours. I assume she got to a point where she decided to didn't want to live a life half lived just to appease people who will never understand the struggle.

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Load of BS but to please you I will change my wording ..... No 3 yr old has the capacity to think "Im in the wrong body"
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My son played with his sisters dolls and my daughter played with her brothers cars ,didn't make either of them in the "wrong body "or gay or lesbian ,it made them children playing !! Ive seen programmes where pushy parents have dressed TODDLERS in the opposite sex clothing claiming the toddlers are happier wearing them
And none of that has anything to do with people suffering Gender Dysphoria, your straight cisgendered children's experience do not have anything in common with children who are transgender or are of a sexuality that isn't straight. They are not an example of it or proof that it does not exist in children. Your family experiences are not a benchmark that all cases of transgender children must be judged against.

There's power and understanding in empathy, try to see things from other perspectives every once in a while.
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Neither do your opinions
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Thanks I needed reminding about the basis of an opinion
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Seems very confident. Maybe overconfident. That could get annoying. But I like her so far. Be difficult not to after 2 eps.
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I like her, just not as much as others
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I haven't had any kids sis but, believe it or not, I was actually a child myself once, and I remember knowing I was different somehow (i.e gay) when I was about 4. (which is slightly different from gender identity but hopefully you get my point.)
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what ?

you have regressed a later thought to that age

dont be ridiculous
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She's clearly very intelligent and won't take any sh**. So maybe that's why...

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It’s 2018 and people can’t cope with a woman who used to live as a man, apparently
i wood agree. For some weird reason it annoys a lot of people, when it's none of their business really.

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47 years later And I'm sorry but no 3 year old even realises what sexuality is nor should they
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Load of BS but to please you I will change my wording ..... No 3 yr old has the capacity to think "Im in the wrong body"


would you actually be up for reading up on the basics, i'll provide links and everything.
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lol

what ?

you have regressed a later thought to that age

dont be ridiculous
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Wasn't her bed tough.
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you have regressed a later thought to that age

dont be ridiculous
It's quite normal to recall thoughts from when you were a toddler, I remember vividly going to my Nan and Grandad's anniversary party and wearing a Mary Kate and Ashley dress and telling everyone about it at about 3 years old
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It's quite normal to recall thoughts from when you were a toddler, I remember vividly going to my Nan and Grandad's anniversary party and wearing a Mary Kate and Ashley dress and telling everyone about it at about 3 years old
Well yes, some people remember stuff from being 3. However...literally the only difference between the sexes for a 3 year old is stereotypical stuff (well tbh, discounting biological differences even as adults the only differences are stereotypes). So to say you knew you were trans...because you did not like playing with trucks and liked sparkles or whatever is...dodgy.

Even more odd I am finding, is the claim that Greg knew he was gay aged 4 A 4 year old does not, or should not, know anything about sexuality or seeing people in a sexual way.

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I'm quite indifferent about her shes okay though.
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Not that I can speak for Greg, but when I was 4 I knew I was gay. It wasn't anything deep, I just thought the guys on my telly were cute!
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Not that I can speak for Greg, but when I was 4 I knew I was gay. It wasn't anything deep, I just thought the guys on my telly were cute!
Thats so odd to me. I wonder if its me thats different and just assuming that I am 'normal'. Genuinely did not feel any kind of sexual attraction til I was maybe 12 or so. And it is making me feel a little ill considering that 4 year olds could be thinking in that way. My daughter is 5...am slightly worried as I do find that really strange
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I started school at 4 and had a boyfriend, perhaps Greg was in a similar situation but found himself liking boys...
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