[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Portuguese people don't understand Vegetarianism at all, everyone I told thought I couldn't eat cheese or have dairy etc.. and I am allergic to eggs anyway so I wouldn't miss out on them. So I am basically only supporting the dairy industry which I still don't feel great about but I am still learning and maybe one day I'll be able to move away from dairy too.

I actually get that a fair bit too

Like you, I hope to move into veganism eventually. I have sweetened soya milk with my cereal sometimes and it's actually nice so cutting out dairy milk won't be difficult at least.

[lily.]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Yeah, I think it's a good time for people to start, definitely the easiest time to stop eating meat in history. May I ask why you stopped?

I had a hot dog. It seems weird, but I was in Blackpool on a short break, and wanted a hot dog. So I had a hot dog, and then I gradually started eating meat products again.

It may have been an age thing too. I was 14 when I started, 20 when I stopped, so it could possibly be classed as a "phase". I was quite the hippy/activist in my teens, and although I still hold a lot of the same opinions from that time, I suppose once I reached 20 life got in the way of being pro-active. I was working, married, and looking to start a family.... (And yes, I know I was really young but it was different times I suppose)..

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Neither of my cats have ever killed a bird, they are both rescues and we live in an area that's dangerous for cars. Cats have natural instincts to kill and eat birds and other small animals. We don't. When we see a little lamb skipping around we want to have a look and give it a cuddle, nobody starts salivating from the sight of it, but real carnivores wouldn't see a cute little animal at all, they would see an easy meal because it's weaker and smaller than the adults.

Cats will catch mice keep them alive, let them go only to catch them again over and over until they are dead, then they don't eat them,

What you choose to eat is up to you!, no animal should be killed needlessly, some humans eat meat.

[lily.]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

We don't have an instinct to kill for food because we are aware there is far easier and obtainable ways of eating, if we wers stranded in the wilderness it'd be another story.

But anyway it's your choice so good luck with it x

This is an interesting point Jordan. I had a discussion with my son about how I would survive being stranded in the wilderness. He would have no problem killing in order to eat/survive, whereas I would be unable to do that. It's one thing to buy prepared meat, but another to physically kill a living creature in order to eat it.

I would even struggle with fishing. I'm basically the kind of person who can't kill insects/arachnids, and carefully eject them through the door or window when I find one in the house.

So I would be the pale faced one trying to survive on leaves and berries, and probably poisoning myself because I don't know which ones not to eat! lol

[RileyH]

I tried going veggie once but I couldn't make it last longer than 2 days

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Are you going to be eating fish stacey?

Nope or else I'd be pescatarian

[caprimint]

But yeah it's true that a lot of people who class themselves as 'vegetarian' actually eat fish or even 'just eat meat occasionally' like you're obviously not vegetarian then

And I get people asking if I eat dairy products too, some people have no idea the difference between vegetarian/vegan

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by caprimint

But yeah it's true that a lot of people who class themselves as 'vegetarian' actually eat fish or even 'just eat meat occasionally' like you're obviously not vegetarian then

And I get people asking if I eat dairy products too, some people have no idea the difference between vegetarian/vegan

Today I discovered some of them like to call themselves "flexitarian"

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Today I discovered some of them like to call themselves "flexitarian"

That is so weird, they are just a person who doesn't eat meat much, that doesn't have a name.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Im a meat eating veggie and i am finding this really good

[Kazanne]

The reason I went veggie is because of the WAY the animals are killed,some humans cannot be trusted to follow rules and do it humanely and treat the animals with kindness and care until they have to be slaughtered,only the other day I came across a video on FB of a tiny calf being hit round the head with a sledgehammer,it struggled after the second blow to get on it's legs but it couldn't, it looked at the guy I will never forget that face, the guy then proceeded to hit it again twice round the head ,then declared it was still alive so cut it's hoof off,bastard !!! I know that is not a nice story but the evidence was there,i have also seen them kicked prodded tormented and distressed before the kill,some people actually get their jollies off on that,so I vowed never to be connected to anything that brought such savagery to animals again, I have nothing against people eating meat or fish,I just could not myself simply because of the cruelty involved.

[Withano]

I couldn't do it. Cos kebabs. And roast lamb. And McDonald's. And fried chicken. Most things really.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Humans aren't omnivores, really, we are able to grind our jaws and we have flat back teeth, the canines are not an excuse because they are feeble compared to the ones you'd see on real carnivores. Our canines are for apples and nuts and stuff like that.

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Neither of my cats have ever killed a bird, they are both rescues and we live in an area that's dangerous for cars. Cats have natural instincts to kill and eat birds and other small animals. We don't. When we see a little lamb skipping around we want to have a look and give it a cuddle, nobody starts salivating from the sight of it, but real carnivores wouldn't see a cute little animal at all, they would see an easy meal because it's weaker and smaller than the adults.

These are honestly the best arguments I've heard for becoming vegetarian, you always assume that our instinct is to eat meat and vegetarians are distinct from that, but I wonder if it should really be thought of the other way around, and if we don't need to eat animals... then why do we? You could say taste but then why do we eat certain animals and find it morally wrong to eat other animals that may also taste good. I don't know if I'd become vegetarian but it has got me thinking. Good luck with it Jessica!

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

These are honestly the best arguments I've heard for becoming vegetarian, you always assume that our instinct is to eat meat and vegetarians are distinct from that, but I wonder if it should really be thought of the other way around, and if we don't need to eat animals... then why do we? You could say taste but then why do we eat certain animals and find it morally wrong to eat other animals that may also taste good. I don't know if I'd become vegetarian but it has got me thinking. Good luck with it Jessica!

Yeah, I think a lot of people would change how they eat if they had more knowledge about how unnecessary meat is and about our anatomy in relation to comparison with herbivores, carnivores and omnivores in the animal kingdom.

[Marsh.]

Our canines are only feeble because of the way we've evolved from the caveman.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Our canines are only feeble because of the way we've evolved from the caveman.

The species we evolved from had even more herbivorous jaws and teeth than we did, their molars were bigger and flatter than ours,again their canines were bigger because they ate way more raw fruit and vegetables and nuts and seeds than we did.

[y.winter]

Good luck Jessica I'm vegan for around 4 years now and it's been great so far, so just ignore the cynics who still think that "lol here's a picture of a steak" is a good argument.
Healthy, inexpensive - everything that people would like to think it isn't...

[Withano]

Human ancestors developed a taste for meat millions of years ago, and humans wouldnt have existed if they didnt do so. Its the reason the human brain is so advanced today.

Our mouths not looking like a carnivore doesn't mean that we're not

[Morgan.]

I do think that meat is an essential part of our life, we have been adapted to become omnivores which means we can eat plants and meat and our moths and stomachs have been adapted to suit meat. I agree with Withano. I understand the ethical side of it though - and I did try once but literally went home and choked bacon. Not eating it made me want it more.

[Livia]

I went vegetarian when I was about fourteen. I farted allllllllll the time. Eventually my brother said if I didn't go back to eating meat he was going to force-feed me a Big Mac.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Im a meat eating veggie and i am finding this really good

You're a post-modern vegetarian, Trumpet. You eat meat, but you eat it ironically.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

The species we evolved from had even more herbivorous jaws and teeth than we did, their molars were bigger and flatter than ours,again their canines were bigger because they ate way more raw fruit and vegetables and nuts and seeds than we did.

Well meat is delicious so there!

[Nicky91]

welcome to the veggie club Jess

[Livia]

You can always tell a vegetarian, Jess. They're the ones who can't get the lid off the pickle jar.

[y.winter]

Doesn't suit you this kind of jokes Livia...