[parmnion]

Originally Posted by pontyboi

Why does that matter? The question should be why she found that disgusting?

Cause they make a lot of noise and stay up late...did you think it was incase they started bumming

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She said : don't be so disgusting! Clearly referring to two men being in love. We all know how she feed about gay marriage, but there was no need for that comment.

Exactly.

Again too,how does anyone on here KNOW for sure Andrew may not be gay or bisexual.

Inwardly who knows that but Andrew himself.
Ann knows for sure Shane J is,and she still said it.
I really hope people don't see 2 men who are in,forming or just exploring a relationship,as that being disgusting.

The Country is really heading back to a darker age if Ann's unnecessary comment is supported by anyone.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Exactly.

Again too,how does anyone on here KNOW for sure Andrew may not be gay or bisexual.

Inwardly who knows that but Andrew himself.
Ann knows for sure Shane J is,and she still said it.
I really hope people don't see 2 men who are in,forming or just exploring a relationship,as that being disgusting.

The Country is really heading back to a darker age if Ann's unnecessary comment is supported by anyone.

And you know that she meant anything other than "your public display of affection in our faces" how?

and also it was said in jest, unless you have proof that it was serious?


please asnwer bother questions below to support you case:

[HBB1508]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Pretty sure Ann does not like PDA's whether gay or straight, she would have had a similar reaction to Ashley and G and if she said it them no one would bat an eyelid

Totally agree and if I were Ann in there I wouldn't want their fake romance shoved in my face every five minutes and they are only doing it to get a rise out of her so they can go off and bitch in the garden. I am in agreement with Ann what people do behind closed doors is totally up to them but I don't want it shoved in my face all the time.

[LeatherTrumpet]

They did it to wind her up and for her and she gave them the reaction they wanted

Its like people are watching this waiting to be outraged

[Cherie]

Regarding the bed situation, she doesn't want them in the room as they stay up late, and the lights will stay on, again it was only suggested they go in the "early" bedroom to get a rise out of her, all these people demanding respect and treating an elderly woman like that, the solution to the lights staying on was sorted by putting the people who went to bed early in one room, there is no reason for that to change

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

And you know that she meant anything other than "your public display of affection in our faces" how?

and also it was said in jest, unless you have proof that it was serious?


please asnwer bother questions below to support you case:

She's the one on TV not me.
You know for sure too,it was in jest do you too.

I think not.

Knowing her deep rooted dubious views on lgbt rights all through her life and career,I doubt it was totally I'm jest.

That's what I think from what I've learned as to Ann.
What you think is your affair.
If you think I'm not right,there is equally no guarantee either that you are.

Ann has a record against lgbt rights moving forward,that's one solid fact however,mainly from the bigotry of her rigid Roman catholic religious views.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

She's the one on TV not me.
You know for sure too,it was in jest do you too.

I think not.

Knowing her deep rooted dubious views on lgbt rights all through her life and career,I doubt it was totally I'm jest.

That's what I think from what I've learned as to Ann.
What you think is your affair.
If you think I'm not right,there is equally no guarantee either that you are.

Ann has a record against lgbt rights moving forward,that's one solid fact however,mainly from the bigotry of her rigid Roman catholic religious views.

and she is entitled to hold her religious views without being called a bigot, because doing that is persecution in itself

[Maru]

Sadly, have to agree with those who see the homophobia sort of rearing it's ugly head here. Of course, even as an Ann supporter I know that her views are rooted in her Catholic background. You can't be Catholic and divorce those very specific values from your faith simply because they are inconvenient or controversial. If she stands for her faith, then that's where she stands on the issue(s) and I think kinda naive to try to give her a pass on that simply because of her other more virtuous (if not pious) qualities...

I don't know that Ann even sees the harm in what she has said. She may very well have been joking or referring to something more indifferent, but then there's the something to be said about there being a grain of truth in every joke or having a Freudian slip.

She has been quite open about her controversial beliefs about these issues, so I think rather than trying to craft a protective barrier around what she may or may not actually have meant (which I don't know that any of us really know), ask yourself if it is even possible she may not even care how it is interpreted... she doesn't seem to shy away from discourse/controversy on any subject, even if it offends others, so I think instead of trying to make out what she said, maybe consider she is not all that concerned about whether it sends a more negative tone about homosexuality...

I hope she is interviewed on it when she is out, because I'm curious how she deals with the cognitive dissonance that her beliefs no doubt create in this type of atmosphere (with Andrew/Courtney). Especially with her relationship with Amanda. But I think also really unfair to judge any one person entirely based on their opinions on a single issue... unless of course that goes against something you are rather (non-literally) religiously against.. but then you know, we are in a world where we are surrounded by conflicting belief systems... it's fine to pick and choose with strangers on the internet, but much more difficult out in real life to discriminate and screen barriers in a similar manner.. but I guess we live in a society now where that sort of discrimination really is actually the new normal, that we are all being "screened" for perceived slights or incompatible thought systems... Ann didn't grow up in that kind of world. She grew up in a society where we were encouraged to get on regardless in what was considered quite tolerant for those times, even while believing most others were terrible sinners. So other people's moral fixations on the particular words or verbiage she uses is probably all quite ambivalent and alien to her (in retrospect)

Anyway, just some mild rambling at no one in particular.

[Barry.]

I thought she was joking.

[Vanessa]

Shane said what he said in a jokey way. He wasn't trying provoke Ann. This is why he was shocked at her response. And so was I. It was unnecessary.

[Barry.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Shane said what he said in a jokey way. He wasn't trying provoke Ann. This is why he was shocked at her response. And so was I. It was unnecessary.

Maybe she meant disgusting to those two, not all gays.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Ja$e

Ann's homophobic, a large member of TiBB members are gay - I think the hate Ann receives is pretty f'n justifiable.

NO, it f'n isn't ,you label her that as it suits the agenda to get people to dislike her,I doubt very much you know much about this lady at all , have you actually listened about what she said about gay marriage ? or are you just enjoying bashing someone you really know nothing about.or is it just because she is a Tory?

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Shane said what he said in a jokey way. He wasn't trying provoke Ann. This is why he was shocked at her response. And so was I. It was unnecessary.

My feeling is they were trying to get her to relax a little bit, see them as simple down-to-earth human beings, and less like zoo animals trying to fornicate all over the house. I'm not so sure they are the characters suited to this quite difficult task of changing Ann's mind on homosexuality...

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by BBfan2017

Maybe she meant disgusting to those two, not all gays.

I don't think so. She said it when Shane mentioned the love between two men?

[Barry.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

NO, it f'n isn't ,you label her that as it suits the agenda to get people to dislike her,I doubt very much you know much about this lady at all , have you actually listened about what she said about gay marriage ? or are you just enjoying bashing someone you really know nothing about.or is it just because she is a Tory?

[Barry.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I don't think so. She said it when Shane mentioned the love between two men?

I feel she meant those two.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Shane said what he said in a jokey way. He wasn't trying provoke Ann. This is why he was shocked at her response. And so was I. It was unnecessary.

I really cant do with people who refuse to see the bigger picture, there was NO way Ann said that in regards to them being gay,it was Shane saying she could WATCH their love grow,now you might find that entertaining, but some people don't,it was as simple as that,why do people make mountains out of molehills just to make their fave look good.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Maru

My feeling is they were trying to get her to relax a little bit, see them as simple down-to-earth human beings, and less like zoo animals trying to fornicate all over the house. I'm not so sure they are the characters suited to this quite difficult task of changing Ann's mind on homosexuality...

Shane was just referring to the love him and Andrew share. How close they are, I think. But Ann thinks it's wrong.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by BBfan2017

I feel she meant those two.

I think she's disgusted by the idea that two men can be in love.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by HBB1508

Totally agree and if I were Ann in there I wouldn't want their fake romance shoved in my face every five minutes and they are only doing it to get a rise out of her so they can go off and bitch in the garden. I am in agreement with Ann what people do behind closed doors is totally up to them but I don't want it shoved in my face all the time.

[Barry.]

The Ann hate is real.

[Vanessa]

Somehow Ann seems more accepting of Amanda, who is also gay. Maybe because she's a woman?

[Barry.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I think she's disgusted by the idea that two men can be in love.

I disagree.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Shane was just referring to the love him and Andrew share. How close they are, I think. But Ann thinks it's wrong.

WRONG again,Ann has already said in the house that what people do in their own house is up to them,she just objects to it being flaunted in her face,lots of people don't like PDAs why should she?