[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Robodog

I think the moral of the thread is more concerned with the sexualisation of minors

It's one thing for 'little johnny' to explore or express his femininity

Another thing for him to dress (or act) like a prostitute


In that respect i find Shane J's 'message' infinitely more disturbing than Ann's

If Shane J wants be this self-appointed voice of gender exploration, especially for CHILDREN (as he mentioned last night), then glamour-vixen Courtney in all her mangina revealing glory is SERIOUSLY NOT the best role model for your child


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It's not really the morale of the thread if you're the only one that's drawn that conclusion.

I find the whole role model point to be shallow as well, very slut shaming in a way. The way someone dresses does not make them any less of a role model, we should look for how a person acts to judge their worth in that regard, not how they look.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Robodog

I think the moral of the thread is more concerned with the sexualisation of minors

It's one thing for 'little johnny' to explore or express his femininity

Another thing for him to dress (or act) like a prostitute


In that respect i find Shane J's 'message' infinitely more disturbing than Ann's

If Shane J wants be this self-appointed voice of gender exploration, especially for CHILDREN (as he mentioned last night), then glamour-vixen Courtney in all her mangina revealing glory is SERIOUSLY NOT the best role model for your child


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I find his "message to the community" very disturbing too

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

what people seem to miss is that kids in their peer group take very little notice of their parents or teachers. If they want to make fun of little jonny for whatever reason, they will. They are not bound by rules surrounding appropriate behaviour. Kids that don't conform in whatever aspect will be made fun of or will be bullied. That won't change

I think the idea is to make Little Johnny feel okay about himself, rather than stopping Patrick and Muhammed from bullying him

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I find his "message to the community" very disturbing too

Not surprising.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I think the idea is to make Little Johnny feel okay about himself, rather than stopping Patrick and Muhammed from bullying him

Yes, you are right but you do not tell Johnny it is OK without being responsible for anything what might happen if he does.

[sungrass]

Originally Posted by Alf

Can't agree with that.

Look at how unaccepting the younger generation are of democratic results like Brexit or Trump. The cry like spoilt brats.

And don't forget the older generations were fighting for these same rights before you were a glint in the milkman's eye.

They dont in the UK no one cares either way - the media bloow things out of proportion to generate click bait and divide the country.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Yes, you are right but you do not tell Johnny it is OK without being responsible for anything what might happen if he does.

Why should a person be responsible for the actions of a bully? That's silly.

Do women that go out in revealing clothes have to take some of the responsibility if they are attacked? Why blame the victim when it's another person's actions that are the problem?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Yes, you are right but you do not tell Johnny it is OK without being responsible for anything what might happen if he does.

Well, maybe.

When I was younger, the most "inspirational" (for want of better word) LGBT character for me was Maxxie from Skins. He just another character, treated like anyone else. He didn't need to be alll OOHH I'M LGBTQWERTYGENDERQUEERVEGAN because that stuff doesn't matter