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Maru · 02-02-2018, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

You do not have to apply any labels at all.

Accept her as she is, an elderly lady who has lots of guts and has lived her life her way.

Why analyse her, she is a product of her age.

Ask yourself why you feel you must delve into her background for answers, why not take her at face value.

I don't think she rolls her eyes at intimacy, she rolls her eyes at gratuitous exhibitionisms.

You're a little bit too intense of your support of Ann.

We are speaking along the same lines aside from you're being upset I've made some observations?

I have not actually delved into her background, I am only informally analyzing a family member when talking about her reactions to discussions of sexuality and her phobia to extroversion (edit). I've not mentioned eyerolls (before your post anyway). I don't know her background in full. Does any of us?

Part of the fun of BB is analyzing the characters on the show. There's not much more to it than that for me. It's just a simple discussion.

Anyway I am a Ann fan, so...

GoldHeart · 02-02-2018, 03:01 AM

Why are people so obsessed with Ann's personal life and marital status ,who cares seriously

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I'm pretty sure regardless of your background whether you've had a partner or played the field ,you'd still roll your eyes at things in the BB house especially when you know the person stripping to his Speedos and jumping around is doing it for attention like a teenager when he's a 35 year old grown man !!!

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And not everyone likes smutty talk or PDA in general ,what's the issue. Ann is who she is and she's not changing for anyone , and we know she gets fed up of people rambling on when they talk .

Jamie89 · 02-02-2018, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Maru

Yeah, I don't know enough about Ann's past to feel comfortable slating her when I know that there are people who feel very uncomfortable with a lot of the things that happen on BB (but then why did she go on a show like BB? That's a reasonable criticism as well). I think her religion is by design homophobic (by the common definition of it), but that's a little less than saying she discriminates against people on the basis of homosexuality for fun/evil purposes...

I do think though that having sexuality tossed in the face of people who don't even like to have those very personal conversations out in the open is a quick way to get a negative reaction. I think that can very easily be over-read.

This is what I love about Ann and why I support her. I've enjoyed watching her on the show.

And like you, the only real thing that "irks" me about her is the eyerolling.

But that's because her facial expressions can be quite rude to other people in the room... I don't like that she leaves that open to interpretation as she claims that she cares about her reputation. But you know, I've seen much ruder come out of other people on BB... it's not really that much when you compare her behavior to other people like freaking Bear.

This is true, he has tried to get away from the banter (finally) and talk about non-sexual things. But you can see where maybe someone like her would have trouble taking his views about morality, for example, seriously when he's done the dress drop (very likely staged), has spent a considerable good amount of time talking behind her back, talked cr*p with Andrew and then he wants to talk about what he feels is morally correct?...

She's tried to point out this contradiction (in her view) I think, but she's been more or less dismissed as a miserable old hag/homophobe. (By the way, I'm behind a little in eps, so if something has changed, I've not seen it yet)

She might take issue with his views on morality, but then she's expressed her disapproval at times when this hasn't been relevant. I hate to keep harping on about the eye rolling

but it's the best example really, she did it repeatedly as he was talking which implies she wanted him to notice which I'd say was more than just a reactionary 'that's just Ann' thing and makes it more of an intentionally rude thing, and when she was pulled up on it she basically said it's because she wanted him to stop, even though she began only a few seconds into him starting to talk. And although the topic was 'sexuality' it was in no way referencing anything to do with sex, it was purely feelings/life experiences. It's all of this that leads me to believe that her issue probably isn't just the sexual side of of homosexuality, but the topic of homosexuality in general.

I actually think we could do with a new word (yeah I know, not another label

) but in a similar way to how the current use of the word gender was introduced as a way of differentiating biological sex with the social constructs of it, I think a word that differentiates somebody's sexuality in a sexual 'who they are attracted to' sense with somebody's social experiences in life that have occurred because of their sexuality could be of great benefit. Because with the latter, it gets referred to as somebody discussing their sexuality but because this has so many sexual connotations with people I think wires often get crossed in conversations about it and peoples intentions get misrepresented. Just a thought really.

Crimson Dynamo · 02-02-2018, 06:15 PM

I think what is disgusting is shane j and his thirst and how he lost all his judgement with Andrew

weak man

no wonder he is a panto clown rather than a politician

he has no balls like ann

chuff me dizzy · 02-02-2018, 06:20 PM

I chose who i like/dislike by their personality ,not skin colour ,sexuality,but an instant turn off and no no for me, is if they throw the race card or bleat on about how hard done by they are ,then Ive finished with them

Kazanne · 02-02-2018, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i would say it's more of an "i'm bored and have heard/seen this before" eye roll. I can imagine her doing it in parliament until it became second nature

Yes,that's how I read it too,I think a lot of us do it when people are repetative