[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

A petty quip rather than a response. Ok.

Is 'rape is rape' not a quip?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Is 'rape is rape' not a quip?

No.

I was responding that rape in all its forms is still part of the same central topic and so will/should be covered in the same lesson. As I said earlier, it helps with misconceptions that rape is all "Strangers physically attacking you at night in a dark alley" and actual understand the broader topic of consent. Simple things like this help with that.


If you don't want to respond to that and just highlight three words to misconstrue as an insult that's your prerogative.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

No.

I was responding that rape in all its forms is still part of the same central topic and so will/should be covered in the same lesson. As I said earlier, it helps with misconceptions that rape is all "Strangers physically attacking you at night in a dark alley" and actual understand the broader topic of consent. Simple things like this help with that.


If you don't want to respond to that and just highlight three words to misconstrue as an insult that's your prerogative.

You can't help patonising in every post, were you to stop that I might take you more seriously.

As I said like bullying it is part of a central topic, I don't agree it can be as I don't see the 'rape is rape' connection.
If like you say there are facets to it, rape is not rape....

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You can't help patonising in every post, were you to stop that I might take you more seriously.

As I said like bullying it is part of a central topic, I don't agree it can be as I don't see the 'rape is rape' connection.
If like you say there are facets to it, rape is not rape....

If you can't see it, why am I being accused of patronising you by trying to explain it?

Rape is rape. Whether physical force or emotional blackmail, it is rape. That's the whole point of the misconceptions being dealt with all at once and together. Discuss them. Rape isn't just from strangers in strange places but can happen in relationships in your own bedroom type of thing that a lot of people (especially young ones) simply won't comprehend. You see it in a lot of reactions to news stories when you get some people asking "How can it be rape? He's her husband" or "She led him on. She took him home from the club, how can she have wanted anything other than sex?" etc etc. So, there's valid reasons.

So, no, it's not/was not about you. It was directly related to my view on this discussion. Whether you take them seriously, I couldn't care less. I'm normally told not to quote you anyway so it doesn't matter to me that you take me seriously or otherwise.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

If you can't see it, why am I being accused of patronising you by trying to explain it?

Rape is rape. Whether physical force or emotional blackmail, it is rape. That's the whole point of the misconceptions being dealt with all at once and together. Discuss them. Rape isn't just from strangers in strange places but can happen in relationships in your own bedroom type of thing that a lot of people (especially young ones) simply won't comprehend. You see it in a lot of reactions to news stories when you get some people asking "How can it be rape? He's her husband" or "She led him on. She took him home from the club, how can she have wanted anything other than sex?" etc etc. So, there's valid reasons.

So, no, it's not/was not about you. It was directly related to my view on this discussion. Whether you take them seriously, I couldn't care less. I'm normally told not to quote you anyway so it doesn't matter to me that you take me seriously or otherwise.

Are you schooling me in rape?...

All the different situations in which rape could happen was my reasoning behind my position that rape is not rape.