[Dr43%er]

Classical, folk, metal, goth, EBM.

[001steven]

Look i bet you that if there was an awards show JUST for white people there WOULD be uproar and England has gone to the dogs in the past few years nearly every english or white british person has left the UK for spain and austrailier.... and at the end of the day there SHOULD NOT be an award for black people there should b e one for everyone

[~Kizwiz~]

Its not JUST for black people...... its about the origin of where the music came from....White people have won awards.

Its not like the MOBO's is soley for black winner.

[Dr43%er]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrgh.

It is an awards for everyone, as the Brits, kerang, NME and so on.

I see you have ignored the Home office stats on racially motivated murders and then put up another unsubstantiated "fact" to prove your point.

"nearly every english or white british person has left the UK for spain and austrailier"

Stats please?

[Lauren]

Originally posted by 001steven
Look i bet you that if there was an awards show JUST for white people there WOULD be uproar and England has gone to the dogs in the past few years nearly every english or white british person has left the UK for spain and austrailier.... and at the end of the day there SHOULD NOT be an award for black people there should b e one for everyone

Oh my god, sorry, but you're arguing your point badly.
So very badly.

Please take into account what Kiz and Dr are saying... it's not an awards just for black people - each time you post that it is, it makes the rest of your argument void.

It's for music from black origin - this could involve using patois in the lyrics, it could involve grime dancing... ANYTHING... all of these things could come from white people, but the origins of this (patois, grime dancing etc) is black - from the slave trade era.

White people can win the award, it just so happens that not many white people are in this genre. Thats not racist. The award is for everyone.

Also... ermm... stats on everyone moving to Spain and Australia? Or is this another cliched media-fuelled opinion?

[001steven]

Well come down to north london then and you wont see alot of white people I GARENNTE THAT

AND so what if youn think there not racist I DO!! and thats my opnion and will stick with it.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by 001steven
Well come down to north london then and you wont see alot of white people I GARENNTE THAT

AND so what if youn think there not racist I DO!! and thats my opnion and will stick with it.

What on earth has coming to North London got to do with the Mobo's?????

The awards are not soley for black people... so whats the problem?

[Dr43%er]

"AND so what if youn think there not racist I DO!!"

Why? Simple question.

[001steven]

look im not going to argue with you your not worth it

[Benji]

well i think the word "MOBO" is racist. Full stop. It is racist whether they give out awards or not to white people.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by 001steven
look Im not going to argue with you your not worth it

who isnt worth it?

Originally posted by Benji
well i think the word "MOBO" is racist. Full stop. It is racist whether they give out awards or not to white people.

Music of Black origin is racist???? How? Is BBC Asian Network racist too???????? And BBC 1Xtra?

[001steven]

Originally posted by kizwiz

who isnt worth it?

Music of Black origin is racist???? How? Is BBC Asian Network racist too???????? And BBC 1Xtra?

Oh why do you have to bring that in for??? Bengi is right in what he says.

The should be awards for music of white origin wheres that??

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by 001steven

Oh why do you have to bring that in for??? Bengi is right in what he says.

The should be awards for music of white origin wheres that??

Bring what into it? I am confused

The MOBO's celebrates a type of music, a genre, just like a genre of rock or pop or classical. Its where the music came from.

Because it has the word black you consider it racist???

So what would you consider to be the music of 'white' origin... please do explain in more detail????

[~Kizwiz~]

To quote Wikipedia......

Wikipedia - MOBO

The MOBO (an acronym for Music Of Black Origin) Awards, established in 1996 by Kanya King, are held annually in the UK to recognise artists of any race or nationality performing music of black origin.

[Dr43%er]

"look Im not going to argue with you your not worth it" You mean you have no argument. I am still waiting for the stats to prove your two statements you used to bolster your point.

Benji. The word "MOBO" is racist? ****ing laughable.

Right, if someone was to start a "MOWO" would you find it racist? Not would other people, you.

[~Kizwiz~]

I dont see the point in starting a MOWO..... what sort of music woud you class as MOWO....??? There is toomany genre's in place in it.

MOBO is clearly what it states

[GiRTh]

I’m back and I’m going to behave, but as a man of aftro-caribean ancestry
I have to say this has got to be the most ridiculous discussion I’ve ever heard.

The MOBO were started due to a number of black musicians being disillusioned by the fact that few black artists were winning BRIT awards. The MOBO’s are yet another attempt by black people to redress the balance. So to all those people who want to start a MOWO awards, I’d say there already is one isn’t there? It just doesn’t have the word ‘white’ in the title. In fact the BRITs started the ‘Best Urban’ category in an attempt to address the accusations that were being aimed at them.

Originally posted by Retroman
In america a scholarship was setup for black people only.
So white people set up a scholarship in jest just to prove a point, that was for white people only...and SHOCK HORROR the black people complained it was racist =] when they were currently doing the exact same thing.

Are you aware of apartheid and the segregation that existed in the past. There were White only sections in restaurant and on buses. Sorry, but I fail to see anything funny about setting up a white only scholarship given the struggle that the freedom fighters had in trying to get rid of white only segregation. Personally, I don’t agree with white only or black only in any way shape or form.

Originally posted by Retroman
Just goes to show what control black people have over the world that they can demand things given to them, often just them, whilst also branding all white people who do the same as racists.

What a ridiculous statement and as a black man I know exactly how ridiculous it is. Where exactly do black people have control over the world because I’m sure a lot of black people would like to move there. As I said above, in the past there was segregation and white only sections. I think you’d agree that is racist. Anything that you label as black only is merely an attempt to redress the balance.

[Sunny_01]

Firstly G-Man welcome the hell back!!!

Secondly I agree with what you say. There should be no balck or white only anything, it creates division and stops us those of us that are normal people accepting of each other regardless of colour just getting the hell on with our lives and enjoying each other for what we all are, PEOPLE.

[Redmond]

I haven't read through all of this thread but to answer the question simply, NO is the answer.

It's music of BLACK ORIGIN, it's not specifically black people only, as Amy Winehouse and others that are not black but make music of that genre won awards. There's no debating of "oh if it was white awards" etc, it just can't be compared in any argument about race, because white people as a race have never and never will suffer racism to the magnitude of what black or Asian people have and still suffer from today, although obviously not on such a grand scale. I'm not saying white people can't be the victims of racism, but as a race the white people (of which I'm one) have never suffered, have never been seen as the lesser human beings and have never been in a position where they don't have power.