[Blue cat]

In Coronation street I've read that they aren't going to say how Aidan has killed himself. I think that they should say and say how painful it is to commit suicide. This might save lives because people might be put off by the pain.

Often when someone commits suicide in a programme they just make out the person took an overdose and just passed out and died but the reality could be they are writhing about in agony for ages. Also if they don't die they might be left with permanent damage. This should be what people are warned about.

[LaLaLand]

I thought I read somewhere that it was hanging? Or did I imagine?

[Blue cat]

Originally Posted by Jonnii

I thought I read somewhere that it was hanging? Or did I imagine?

I read that they weren't going to say at this stage what method he used. If it is hanging they should say how difficult and painful it is. A lot of times in programmes suicide is made to look easy.

[Smithy]

I think the fallout from a suicide and the pain shown afterwards is more of a deterrent to people rather than the pain during the suicide

[Cherie]

They can't really show it as it is pre water shed

[Blue cat]

Originally Posted by Cherie

They can't really show it as it is pre water shed

I think they should still say about the pain involved before the watershed as it might deter younger people from attempting suicide.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Blue cat

I think they should still say about the pain involved before the watershed as it might deter younger people from attempting suicide.

The should touch on it in the aftermath I think

[Jack_]

The best way to deter people from taking their own life is to address their mental wellbeing and underlying issues and work out how we can see the symptoms/help resolve them before it gets to that stage

If someone is prepared to kill themsleves I don't think the pain is going to be a deterrent. Let's not forget self harm is often a precursor to suicide

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Blue cat

I read that they weren't going to say at this stage what method he used. If it is hanging they should say how difficult and painful it is. A lot of times in programmes suicide is made to look easy.

Don't think they've said that. They simply said they didn't want to depict any of the suicide onscreen.

In terms of warning people off, I don't think discussing the physical pain of killing yourself is worth any exploration, as people in that frame of mind aren't thinking in those terms anyway, if they want to do something the thought of it "hurting" won't change anything.

The thing they want to tackle is what leads to suicide in the first place, feeling isolated and like you can't talk to anyone.

[Twosugars]

Agree what Jack and Marsh say.
Plus, suicidal people aren't stupid. Half-decent research online comes up with some methods that are not painful and are tried and tested.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Jack_

The best way to deter people from taking their own life is to address their mental wellbeing and underlying issues and work out how we can see the symptoms/help resolve them before it gets to that stage

If someone is prepared to kill themsleves I don't think the pain is going to be a deterrent. Let's not forget self harm is often a precursor to suicide

You're so right, Jack. Having worked with young people with mental health issues for many years, I can say that most schools are good at recognising the signs and symptoms, and that the ways to address them are known.

Unfortunately, any form of counselling or support within schools (which in my experience has made a massive difference to those lucky enough to have had access to to it) is the first thing in budgets that is cut.

Many schools have had to make redundancies and hard choices in recent years due to changes in funding, so many have lost counselling staff as well as support assistants for those with social and emotional issues, which are exactly the individuals who are likely to develop mental health issues.

There is also a major flaw with how the mental health services work. I took a young lad of 17 to emergency after a serious suicide attempt. He had been in the mental health system throughout his teenage years due to a host of mental health issues, and social/emotional issues. Having been thrown out of home, he had not seen a doctor since leaving school so had slipped outside the system.

I was told in A&E, that child mental health ends at 16 and adult mental health begins at 18, so basically there was a problem getting either to provide support for him as neither saw it as their responsibility.

I was horrified that, at such a crucial age, the system was so flawed. Very scary.

[Toy Soldier]

Well... Im sure I remember a Hollyoaks storyline when a guy killed himself by OD, was found and rushed to hospital and woke up there relieved that he had survived and saying that he had changed his mind, and they were like "Err sorry but it was too late, your organs are shutting down and you are indeed going to die".

That was pretty harrowing. And realistic. It's scary how many people survive a suicide attempt and regret having tried... Makes you think about how many there must be who succeeded, but would actually have regretted it soon after.