[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by JTM45

In instances like that those people were born gay but because of the way they were made to feel about how society sees being gay they felt they had to repress it and thought that if they lived a straight lifestyle then it might somehow 'go away' or something.
That's why they usually can't keep living a lie and are so unhappy that they have no choice but to come out in the end.

How do you know they were born gay ?

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

How do you know they were born gay ?

Did you choose your sexuality?

[qwerty42]

What's him being black got to do with it?

his point was he didn't think its natural.

Human nature is to be attracted to opposite sex, otherwise we wouldn't exist, bringing his skin colour into it makes no sense. Its like saying its not natural him being black.

[M X]

Originally Posted by qwerty42

What's him being black got to do with it?

his point was he didn't think its natural.

Human nature is to be attracted to opposite sex, otherwise we wouldn't exist, bringing his skin colour into it makes no sense. Its like saying its not natural him being black.

Who says that it is human nature to be attracted to opposite sex? That's just the kind of ignorant bull**** you've been brainwashed with since you were born.

[qwerty42]

Originally Posted by MichaelSpears

Who says that it is human nature to be attracted to opposite sex? That's just the kind of ignorant bull**** you've been brainwashed with since you were born.

How are we created? Male mates with female. How is that ignorant?

[Kazanne]

Seems people cannot say anything anymore as someone will always be offended,what happened to freedom of speech? people need to accept not everyone has the same views on things,Is it also wrong to call people ginger,four eyes.fatty,spotty, isn't that as offensive to the people concerned but that's seems to be ok by everyone.

[Benjamin]

I have to say this convo between Luisa and Evander has probably done more for CBB than anything else in recent years.

[Chuck]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

I have to say this convo between Luisa and Evander has probably done more for CBB than anything else in recent years.

so true

[Kazanne]

Well Im off to bed ,but this has been a good thread Ben ,very enlightening.

[Jemal]

*grabs popcorn*

[Jemal]

But tbh. In defence of evander.
I could just wake up tommorow and just decide to start flirting with boys..(i would never, just example) but in that case he does have a point that sometimes you can choose to be gay or not.

Ollie is a great example imo, he likes boys but chooses to have more girlfriends hence why he has never slept with a boy lol.

[the truth]

I know people who were once in somosexual relationships now with with the opposite sex. Ive no idea if they chose to change their sexual desires nor am I interested to ask. its not my business. but to hear some posters here clainm to know the exact choices of all homosexuals on the planet is the most mindless stereotyped drivel Ive ever heard in my life

[Apple202]

"mindless drivel" is what i tend to think when i have the displeasure of reading your posts, to tell you the truth

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Apple202

"mindless drivel" is what i tend to think when i have the displeasure of reading your posts, to tell you the truth

thats because you want all opposing views or opinions that make you question anything banned by the radical liberals

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Apple202

"mindless drivel" is what i tend to think when i have the displeasure of reading your posts, to tell you the truth

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by the truth

I know people who were once in somosexual relationships now with with the opposite sex. Ive no idea if they chose to change their sexual desires nor am I interested to ask. its not my business. but to hear some posters here clainm to know the exact choices of all homosexuals on the planet is the most mindless stereotyped drivel Ive ever heard in my life

I was just stating what i know from my experience and the knowledge i've personally absorbed in my lifetime. I never said "this is how it is in every single case for every single person!".
Without writing a whole page on the subject people have to generalize to a certain extent.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by JTM45

I was just stating what i know from my experience and the knowledge i've personally absorbed in my lifetime. I never said "this is how it is in every single case for every single person!".
Without writing a whole page on the subject people have to generalize to a certain extent.

so youre allowed to generalize and offer an opinion, but evander isnt? fair?

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by the truth

so youre allowed to generalize and offer an opinion, but evander isnt? fair?

When did i say Evander isn't ?
I said in my first post on the subject that he IS entitled to his opinion but that i disagree strongly with it.
So you're saying that nobody is allowed to comment on anything unless they're prepared to write a complete thesis on the subject are you ? Like you do you mean........

[the truth]

Originally Posted by JTM45

When did i say Evander isn't ?
I said in my first post on the subject that he IS entitled to his opinion but that i disagree strongly with it.
So you're saying that nobody is allowed to comment on anything unless they're prepared to write a complete thesis on the subject are you ? Like you do you mean........

sorry if my posts are too long for your attention span. trying reading the shorter ones if its easier for you

[the truth]

Originally Posted by JTM45

When did i say Evander isn't ?
I said in my first post on the subject that he IS entitled to his opinion but that i disagree strongly with it.
So you're saying that nobody is allowed to comment on anything unless they're prepared to write a complete thesis on the subject are you ? Like you do you mean........

youve got a short and selective memory

[MeMyselfAndI]

Did you choose to be straight chuff? Did you actively make the choice at 13 or so & think 'I'll be straight'

[Jemal]

You can easily just get out of bed one morning and decide to try your luck with boys. Its not hard. That obviously comes under 'making a choice' like evander tried to say.
Im not defending him but in bits he was talking abit of sense.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Jemal

You can easily just get out of bed one morning and decide to try your luck with boys. Its not hard. That obviously comes under 'making a choice' like evander tried to say.
Im not defending him but in bits he was talking abit of sense.

That's what we call living a lie, being in denial, etc etc

[Jemal]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

That's what we call living a lie, being in denial, etc etc

But mate, your still choosing..
Lie or no lie you are choosing.

Let me use you as an example, dont take offence to this but just a harmless example.
You could be straight right now because you choose not to be gay.
True or false?
Either way you choose your sexuality because if you want to be gay you can bloody be gay? If you choose not to be gay, you choose to go for girls and now especially if you like both sex's you CHOOSE to be bloody bisexual.

What people are getting mixed up is the feelings. You dont choose your feelings of course but you choose your sexuality, lie or not, that is the truth.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by Jemal

But mate, your still choosing..
Lie or no lie you are choosing.

Let me use you as an example, dont take offence to this but just a harmless example.
You could be straight right now because you choose not to be gay.
True or false.
Either way you choose your sexuality because if you want to be gay you can bloody be gay? If you choose not to be gay, you choose to go for girls and now especially if you like both sex's you CHOOSE to be bloody bisexual.

What people are getting mixed up is the feelings. You dont choose your feelings of course but you choose your sexuality, lie or not, that is the truth.

This is where people get confused.
Being gay is being attracted too the same sex
A gay person can choose too sleep with the opposite sex (denial, self hatred, baby etc), but they cannot choose too be straight
Being gay is about attractions & feelings, a gay man can have sex with a girl, It doesn't make them straight