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Old 27-05-2019, 05:59 AM #1
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The anti brexit vote was larger than the brexit vote, so I don't see how the brexit party dominated .... i thought the BBC coverage was ridiculous
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The anti brexit vote was larger than the brexit vote, so I don't see how the brexit party dominated .... i thought the BBC coverage was ridiculous

They Got the Most MEP's 28




Then

Lib Dems 15
Labour 10
Green 7
Conservatives 3
SNP 3
Plaid Cymru 1
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They werent all new, most were transferred from ukip
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The anti brexit vote was larger than the brexit vote, so I don't see how the brexit party dominated .... i thought the BBC coverage was ridiculous
The Brexit party is a one issue party at the moment, so it's fairly certain that everybody who voted for them, voted because they wanted to leave the EU.


Lib Dem and Greens will have got some of their votes from people who always vote Lib Dem or Green, and the EU exit might not be their reason for voting, they might not have even voted in the referendum, or it's possible they even voted to leave.

What we do know is the Brexit vote actually won. As it did in the 2016 referendum.

Of course the establishment remoaners which includes the mainstream media, is gonna spin it the way you have, it's in their interests to do so.

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The Brexit party is a one issue party at the moment, so it's fairly certain that everybody who voted for them, voted because they wanted to leave the EU.


Lib Dem and Greens will have got some of their votes from people who always vote Lib Dem or Green, and the EU exit might not be their reason for voting, they might not have even voted in the referendum, or it's possible they even voted to leave.

What we do know is the Brexit vote actually won. As it did in the 2016 referendum.

Of course the establishment remoaners which includes the mainstream media, is gonna spin it the way you have, it's in their interests to do so.
not true, the lib dems message was bollocks to brexit, and people voted green, the snp, change uk to stop brexit.
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The anti brexit vote was larger than the brexit vote, so I don't see how the brexit party dominated .... i thought the BBC coverage was ridiculous
This is true.
All we have is that small split still in the UK, this time marginally the other way, on a really much smaller turnout too.
An increase on the local elections.

This could have been interesting had this been a contest between say the Brexit party and say Lib Dems or other designated remain party.
None of the actual Labour votes given here would have gone to the Brexit party.

For me, its a disintegration of UKIP votes transferring to the Brexit party.
With a small number of disenchanted Conservative and Labour votes added.

The bulk of Conservative and Labour votes crossing to the stronger for remain parties, Lib Dem and Green.
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SNP triumphs in Scotland
Did very well, it looks like a one party state.


So now it's the SNP. the socialists, who just happen to be nationalists.

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Let's say you're right and we have another referendum and remoan wins, then the Leavers are just not gonna accept the result, why should they?
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Let's say you're right and we have another referendum and remoan wins, then the Leavers are just not gonna accept the result, why should they?
if there is a 2nd ref they have to build in a clear percentage win and also that it will be binding ....if leave won a second vote I would accept it, I think people know alot more of what they are voting for now
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if there is a 2nd ref they have to build in a clear percentage win and also that it will be binding ....if leave won a second vote I would accept it, I think people know alot more of what they are voting for now
Doesn't matter, the Leavers are not going to accept it if they were defeated, they're just gonna say it's 1-1.

If there was another vote, leave would win by a bigger margin than last time, I'm confident of that and the country doesn't need it, just to prove me right.
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labour did get battered last night, but labour have never stood for a no deal brexit, so the votes they did pick up are also in direct opposition to the brexit party. When you take that into account the anti-no deal brexit was huge compared to the votes the brexit party picked up

I just don't see how we can politically resolve the situation now without another ref

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labour did get battered last night, but labour have never stood for a no deal brexit, so the votes they did pick up are also in direct opposition to the brexit party. When you take that into account the anti-no deal brexit was huge compared to the votes the brexit party picked up

I just don't see how we can politically resolve the situation now without another ref
It's easy to solve it, just leave, and let's start getting on with life again
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Doesn't matter, the Leavers are not going to accept it if they were defeated, they're just gonna say it's 1-1.

If there was another vote, leave would win by a bigger margin than last time, I'm confident of that and the country doesn't need it, just to prove me right.
Happy with that, I don't think many remainers would have an issue if leave were to win again, that really would be the will of the people, I can't prove you right I only have one vote same as you
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from us dutch, our Labour party (PVDA) is the one with most MEPs in european parliament, and yes our frans timmermans is running for EC president, to try and be successor of Juncker

our nexit heavy party PVV out of european parliament and the other far right forum only 3 seats so doesn't have a majority by far against all other left parties in the MEPs for us

so no nexit for us
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Stop smudging the figures, there is a leaning that remainers won this vote, but people are using labour votes in the count and we all know labour is split on remain and leave.



Brexit won this hands down, and considering the 40 percent turnout, I think you could say the majority of non voters would be brexit eery fed up with the lack of brexit...

And corbyn should do the honourable thing like may did and resign at the state of his party atm.

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Stop smudging the figures, there is a leaning that remainers won this vote, but people are using labour votes in the count and we all know labour is split on remain and leave.



Brexit won this hands down, and considering the 40 percent turnout, I think you could say the majority of non voters would be brexit eery fed up with the lack of brexit...

And corbyn should do the honourable thing like may did and resign at the state of his party atm.
Without Labour its 40/35 to remain, just seen the guy on Yougov confirm this on Sky
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So you're just assuming Labour and the Tories are Remain? Both parties are pretty split tbh
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Yes they are.
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So you're just assuming Labour and the Tories are Remain? Both parties are pretty split tbh
Remove labor and tories, remain is ahead, split them equally for arguments sale, remain is still ahead
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Remove labor and tories, remain is ahead, split them equally for arguments sale, remain is still ahead

but no time for a 2nd vote.
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Remove labor and tories, remain is ahead, split them equally for arguments sale, remain is still ahead
Why would we remove or spit them? Both have it in their manifesto to respect the referendum result, so if anything they should be counted among the Leave parties.
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