[arista]

[smudgie]

2 NHS Staff have had an allergic reaction.
People who have had severe allergic reactions in the past are now advised not to have the jab.

[arista]

Originally Posted by smudgie

2 NHS Staff have had an allergic reaction.
People who have had severe allergic reactions in the past are now advised not to have the jab.

Yes that's normal.
So the Dr.Jarvis says

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes that's normal.
So the Dr.Jarvis says

I would imagine it is.
Hopefully one of the other jabs will be ok for those who can’t have this one.

[arista]

[Pensioner, 91, becomes 'national treasure'
with interview about Covid vaccine as
he describes being late after
he 'couldn't find anywhere to damn well park']
[I went off and had a rather nasty lunch and
then came back and they were ready for me.
And no it didn't hurt at all – I didn't know the
needle had gone in until it had come out.
It was very interesting. No it was painless.']

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...pointment.html

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by smudgie

2 NHS Staff have had an allergic reaction.

People who have had severe allergic reactions in the past are now advised not to have the jab.

Great .. .. that’s me out then ..

I’m allergic to Penicillin , Erythromycin and eggs plus loads of intolerances


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[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Great .. .. that’s me out then ..

I’m allergic to Penicillin , Erythromycin and eggs plus loads of intolerances


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If you are allergic to eggs you cant get the flu vaccine either, I heard someone talking about how the flu vaccine is made and it is grown in eggs

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

[Pensioner, 91, becomes 'national treasure'
with interview about Covid vaccine as
he describes being late after
he 'couldn't find anywhere to damn well park']
[I went off and had a rather nasty lunch and
then came back and they were ready for me.
And no it didn't hurt at all – I didn't know the
needle had gone in until it had come out.
It was very interesting. No it was painless.']

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...pointment.html

I heard this this morning, he was hilarious

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

If you are allergic to eggs you cant get the flu vaccine either, I heard someone talking about how the flu vaccine is made and it is grown in eggs

Yeah ... never had the flu vaccine .. never had the flu either thankfully


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[Cherie]

The Oxford/AstraZeneca Covid vaccine is safe and effective, giving good protection, researchers have confirmed in The Lancet journal.

Most in the study were younger than 55, but the results so far indicate it does work well in older people too.

The data also suggest it can reduce spread of Covid, as well as protect against illness and death.

The paper, assessed by independent scientists, sets out full results from advanced trials of over 20,000 people.

Regulators, who will have seen the same data, are considering the jab for emergency use.

But there are still important questions about what dose to give, as well as who it will protect.

When the interim trial results were made public in a press release about a fortnight ago, the researchers reported three efficacy levels for the vaccine - an overall effectiveness of 70%, a lower one of 62% and a high of 90%.

That's because different doses of the vaccine were used in one part of the trial. Some volunteers were given shots that were half the strength than originally planned.

Yet that "wrong" dose turned out to be a winner - giving 90% protection - while two standard doses gave 62%.

Oxford/AstraZeneca Covid vaccine 'dosing error' explained
The Lancet report reveals 1,367 people - out of many thousands in the trial - received the half dose followed by a full dose, which gave them 90% protection against getting ill with Covid-19.

The relatively small numbers in this group mean it is hard to draw firm conclusions.

None of that group were over the age of 55 though - and experts know it is older people who are most at risk of severe Covid illness.

In terms of safety, there was one severe adverse event potentially related to the vaccine and another one - a high temperature - that is still being investigated.

Both these participants are recovering and are still in the trial.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55228422

[arista]

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

The Oxford/AstraZeneca Covid vaccine is safe and effective, giving good protection, researchers have confirmed in The Lancet journal.



Most in the study were younger than 55, but the results so far indicate it does work well in older people too.



The data also suggest it can reduce spread of Covid, as well as protect against illness and death.



The paper, assessed by independent scientists, sets out full results from advanced trials of over 20,000 people.



Regulators, who will have seen the same data, are considering the jab for emergency use.



But there are still important questions about what dose to give, as well as who it will protect.



When the interim trial results were made public in a press release about a fortnight ago, the researchers reported three efficacy levels for the vaccine - an overall effectiveness of 70%, a lower one of 62% and a high of 90%.



That's because different doses of the vaccine were used in one part of the trial. Some volunteers were given shots that were half the strength than originally planned.



Yet that "wrong" dose turned out to be a winner - giving 90% protection - while two standard doses gave 62%.



Oxford/AstraZeneca Covid vaccine 'dosing error' explained

The Lancet report reveals 1,367 people - out of many thousands in the trial - received the half dose followed by a full dose, which gave them 90% protection against getting ill with Covid-19.



The relatively small numbers in this group mean it is hard to draw firm conclusions.



None of that group were over the age of 55 though - and experts know it is older people who are most at risk of severe Covid illness.



In terms of safety, there was one severe adverse event potentially related to the vaccine and another one - a high temperature - that is still being investigated.



Both these participants are recovering and are still in the trial.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55228422

Nothing in that article is particularly reassuring ... at all .

Half dose followed by a full dose 21 days later ... both to be kept at below 70C ...


Whilst I appreciate our surgeons are brilliant I don’t quite as much faith in the over worked , often inexperienced nurses..

In one hospital stay I was nearly given a DOUBLE dose ( two injections ) of Warfarin - luckily I queried the second one !!

Whilst on another occasion an inexperienced nurse gave me EIGHT Piriton tablets with a glass of water ... luckily I knew to only take TWO ... but she didn’t !!

She’d mistakenly given me a whole days supply !!

This was ten years ago when the health service was NOT as stretched or underfunded.


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[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Nothing in that article is particularly reassuring ... at all .

Half dose followed by a full dose 21 days later ... both to be kept at below 70C ...


Whilst I appreciate our surgeons are brilliant I don’t quite as much faith in the over worked , often inexperienced nurses..

In one hospital stay I was nearly given a DOUBLE dose ( two injections ) of Warfarin - luckily I queried the second one !!

Whilst on another occasion an inexperienced nurse gave me EIGHT Piriton tablets with a glass of water ... luckily I knew to only take TWO ... but she didn’t !!

She’d mistakenly given me a whole days supply !!

This was ten years ago when the health service was NOT as stretched or underfunded.


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The Oxford vaccine can be kept in a normal fridge? Pfizer is below 70 Yes humans makes mistakes but whenever I have had a vaccine or the kids they show you the vial before its administered

[bots]

i think all the vaccines are very promising, there will essentially be at least 3 different types, so that improves suitability options.

All medicine can produce side effects, these stories are nothing to worry about

[Zizu]

Sky currently interviewing a professor who is suggesting that anyone who’s prone to allergic reactions won’t be offered this vaccine ... yet they’re also saying the two people who did have a bad allergic reaction both had a history of allergic reactions ..

So which is true ??


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[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Sky currently interviewing a professor who is suggesting that anyone who’s prone to allergic reactions won’t be offered this vaccine ... yet they’re also saying the two people who did have a bad allergic reaction both had a history of allergic reactions ..

So which is true ??


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Why cant they both be true?

[bots]

the 2 people that suffered a reaction both had adrenaline pens i believe that they carry everywhere, so people in that category should be careful with that type of vaccine

[Cherie]

So 2 out of 10,000 had a reaction and are now fully recovered


Canada has approved the Pfizer vaccine

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Why cant they both be true?

I took it he meant from when vaccinating started ... not AFTER two people had reactions ..

He was kinda suggesting that it was a ‘given’ that anyone with a history of allergic reactions shouldn’t be having the the vaccine... so why were two people in that situation given the vaccine ?

Both nurses so it’s not as though they weren’t aware of the risks .. surely.


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[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I took it he meant from when vaccinating started ... not AFTER two people had reactions ..

He was kinda suggesting that it was a ‘given’ that anyone with a history of allergic reactions shouldn’t be having the the vaccine... so why were two people in that situation given the vaccine ?

Both nurses so it’s not as though they weren’t aware of the risks .. surely.


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From what I listened to this morning, the issue with allergies came up in trials, sonot sure why these nurses both with epi pens took it, maybe it was their own decision if they have previously had vaccines with no issue

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Cherie

So 2 out of 10,000 had a reaction and are now fully recovered


Canada has approved the Pfizer vaccine

for how long?

[Nicky91]

and if you say i'm being too negative, i am more being realistic, since this vaccine my country will begin with in January, keep us informed about any side effects etc

[AnnieK]

I know of a couple of people who have had it and they have both reported no problems and actually both said the flu jab was more painful.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

for how long?

What...if you have an allergic reaction and you recover thats generally it, obviously they cant take that particular vaccine again

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

and if you say i'm being too negative, i am more being realistic, since this vaccine my country will begin with in January, keep us informed about any side effects etc

I thought it hadn’t been approved yet