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Old 12-02-2024, 01:39 PM #226
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The crazy thing about cancer is that it appears to be a bit random on occasion ..


I’ve known quite a few people who have been taken by this awful disease and at least two of them were health / fitness freaks who were mad Ken on healthy eating , never touched junk foods or sweets or chips, never drank , smoked or indulged in any kinds of drugs .


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The crazy thing about cancer is that it appears to be a bit random on occasion ..


I’ve known quite a few people who have been taken by this awful disease and at least two of them were health / fitness freaks who were mad Ken on healthy eating , never touched junk foods or sweets or chips, never drank , smoked or indulged in any kinds of drugs .


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and that my friend is where genetics comes in, its why some women have mastectomys if their mothers had a certain type of cancer
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My grandson believes there is a cure for cancer Ammi, no one can persuade him any differently,he says its generates too much money to make it public, Ide like to think it was rubbish but don't have a lot of faith in human behaviour as its seems fuelled by power and money.
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cancer is very much a generic term. Some forms are easily treatable, some not so much. To eradicate every form of cancer in every human being, for some cancers, requires treatment based on the genetics of the individual, which then becomes a very price costly and time costly treatment. Sometimes, there just isn't the time, but we are just not there as a society yet to create the keyed treatment for every individual on the planet

To further drill down on Ammi's conspiracy theories, the world revolves around money and at some point, decisions will be made as to which option generates the most profit. It may not rise to the level of a blatant conspiracy, but the need to make profit is hardwired into the society we live in
…hopefully there will always be those also who put human life and its preservation above monetary gain…even when there are huge sums of money involved…I guess we saw that too with the COvID vaccines…the were some companies/manufacturers who pledged to be non profit making whilst the vaccine was at its most needed by the public…and so far as I know, they were steadfast with that…in the end and going forward to the future they knew that there would be lots of money to be made but they placed human need first…
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Last I heard (well, read...) about the progress on cancer related to having a more comprehensive understanding of how it spreads. This would include looking for "switches", etc, to turn things off.. this seemed we were heading in the right direction.

How cancer hijacks the nervous system to grow and spread
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00240-3

Breakthrough in understanding of how cancer spreads could lead to better treatments
https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/...ter-treatments

I'm sure the "for profit" people in pharma aren't super focused on a cure, but there's other industries and indeed portions of the hospital systems themselves that are much more concerned with cost-saving measures (govts, institutional medicine, especially). Research whose primary goal is to obtain grants/funding to move forward with their ideas will want to show the efforts they've made or could make... so the economic motives exists the other direction as well. While I'm sure there's more money being made in delivering treatments, there's probably just as much money (and funding) going into things like research overall, not just in cancer but in many diseases... all those books with big ideas, key names and life works that deserve to be put out into the public sphere. So keeping that rolling keeps the "Cure cancer" bun in the oven and overtime we will continue to see progress. Therefore, I can't see a mechanism where we "suppress" a cure, for example...

US medicine can be very expensive even with insurance, but so much money goes into research as well that comes out of the high costs. Hospitals do write off bills if you apply for the assistance and the bar for it is surprisingly low at some hospitals. That money has to come from somewhere and it likely comes from profit margins. I've benefited from at least 2 research programs... 1 directly as a study participant and the other as part of a genetic study of our family that's probably lifelong. Not heralding our super expensive system as some pinnacle of health research, but just stating that it's a complex animal that does indeed do a lot of good for many even with all the ill the same system actually causes as well... and I think it's because there is incentive to do so...

Edit: Fundraising for medical research is actually extremely common in the US. At POS when we do checkout, many shops/etc will have an option to donate $1, etc to medical research and it's usually really specific... which hospital, for which cause... there's much charity in the community going towards those in need and I know the possibilities are growing because of it as I've benefited...
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Another thing I heard from a usually reliable source was that germ they are cultivating cancer cells in those Petri dishes .. they keep them alive for the duration by adding SUGAR to the sterile gel !!!!


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Every cell in your body uses blood sugar (glucose) for energy. But cancer cells use about 200 times more than normal cells. Tumors that start in the thin, flat (squamous) cells in your lungs need even more glucose to fuel their growth.


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The Duke of Sussex is set to discuss his father the King’s health in a television interview in the US.

Harry has been interviewed for the first time since Charles postponed all public-facing duties because of his cancer diagnosis.

He is also due to talk about his life with the Duchess of Sussex and the Invictus Games during the broadcast, to be aired on Good Morning America on Friday.

Harry, who lives in California with his wife and their two children, Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet, flew to the UK last week to see the King.

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I hope he keeps it vague I think its clear why his visit was kept short and did not include Camilla
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The Duke of Sussex is set to discuss his father the King’s health in a television interview in the US.

Harry has been interviewed for the first time since Charles postponed all public-facing duties
because of his cancer
diagnosis.

He is also due to talk about his life with the Duchess of Sussex and the Invictus Games during the broadcast, to be aired on Good Morning America on Frida

Harry, who lives in California with his wife and their two children, Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet, flew to the UK last week to see the King

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clear why his visit was kept short and did
not include Camilla
I don't blame him. I wouldn't want to see her either. Not after what happened with Diana.
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I don't blame him. I wouldn't want to see her either. Not after what happened with Diana.
I don't think that was his call, I think she deliberately excluded herself in case something innocuous she said rocked up on Spare Prick 2
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The Duke of Sussex is set to discuss his father the King’s health in a television interview in the US.

Harry has been interviewed for the first time since Charles postponed all public-facing duties because of his cancer diagnosis.

He is also due to talk about his life with the Duchess of Sussex and the Invictus Games during the broadcast, to be aired on Good Morning America on Friday.

Harry, who lives in California with his wife and their two children, Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet, flew to the UK last week to see the King.

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just watched it, he basically said nothing at all
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just watched it, he basically said nothing at all

Did he say "illness and sickness brings families back together"??
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he was fed those words by the interviewer, he said something closer to yes
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When asked about the possibility of Charles' illness having a reunifying effect on his own family, Harry reflected on what he has seen happen firsthand among the families of Invictus athletes.

"Throughout all of these families, I see it on a day-to-day basis,- again, the strength of the family unit coming together," Harry said. "So, yeah, I think any illness, any sickness, brings families together. I see it time and time again, and that makes me very happy."
Not poorly Thomas Markle though Harry, eh?
2 strokes and not even a ‘get well’ card.
The old man is of no use to them, of course, no titles, no influence, no money.
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it was a really bad interview
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Nice headline for a change, Harry has also indicated a willingness to step into a Royal role temporarily if needed..
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Their stock has fallen dramatically in the US, the money coffers are dwindling, the A listers want nothing to do with them. Hating on the Royal family, their arrogance and hypocrisy has damaged them.
They are now desperately ‘rebranding’ - it’s time to express love for the Royal family and try to worm their way back into proximity with them to rescue their image. Offering to help by taking on some Royal duties. LOL.
It's not going to happen Harry. The trust is gone.
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William would rather he step into on coming traffic
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Those two faced bastards should stay away from the uk and the royal family

Harry said he left to save his family and his wife was going to kill herself
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Nice headline for a change, Harry has also indicated a willingness to step into a Royal role temporarily if needed..


I don’t think that’s going to happen.

This ‘sudden’ change of heart about sickness bringing families together…it didn’t happen with his father in law and it never happened when his grandfather and grandmother were poorly. They are running out of steam…the Invictus games are all they have…along with handing out awards.
Listening to Harry say the things he did in that interview shows a complete turn of events and attitude which sadly is too little too late…I’m sure Charles may welcome it but he will be the only one.
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Their stock has fallen dramatically in the US, the money coffers are dwindling, the A listers want nothing to do with them. Hating on the Royal family, their arrogance and hypocrisy has damaged them.
They are now desperately ‘rebranding’ - it’s time to express love for the Royal family and try to worm their way back into proximity with them to rescue their image. Offering to help by taking on some Royal duties. LOL.
It's not going to happen Harry. The trust is gone.
Imagine pretending that you like/admire/respect the Royal Family, the King getting a serious cancer diagnosis and... ... ... the choice being to use it as a springboard for more spiteful jeering/mocking/criticising of one of his children.

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bit harsh, like I am sure he would have returned to Meghan and kids soon after
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