Home Menu

Site Navigation


Notices

Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics.

Register to reply Log in to reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 01-07-2024, 02:45 PM #1
Liam-'s Avatar
Liam- Liam- is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Cardiff.
Posts: 23,958

Favourites (more):
BB19: Lewis F
CBB21: Shane Jenek


Liam- Liam- is offline
Senior Member
Liam-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Cardiff.
Posts: 23,958

Favourites (more):
BB19: Lewis F
CBB21: Shane Jenek


Default

There have been some polls that have come out that show he’s making gains and that independents are swinging towards him, the democrats have raised nearly $40million since the debate, half of that coming from new, first time contributors, the panic is completely media driven, the stats show something isn’t matching what the talking heads want people to believe
__________________
Liam- is offline  
Old 01-07-2024, 02:48 PM #2
Liam-'s Avatar
Liam- Liam- is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Cardiff.
Posts: 23,958

Favourites (more):
BB19: Lewis F
CBB21: Shane Jenek


Liam- Liam- is offline
Senior Member
Liam-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Cardiff.
Posts: 23,958

Favourites (more):
BB19: Lewis F
CBB21: Shane Jenek


Default

The republicans should be worried about the damage Trump’s comment about ‘black jobs’ has caused
__________________
Liam- is offline  
Old 01-07-2024, 03:07 PM #3
bots's Avatar
bots bots is offline
self-oscillating
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 52,951

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


bots bots is offline
self-oscillating
bots's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 52,951

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Liam- View Post
The republicans should be worried about the damage Trump’s comment about ‘black jobs’ has caused
and hispanic ..... honestly, i don't think they care. Can you imagine what it's going to be like when they start rounding people up. There won't be a legal process supporting it, they will just round people up and lock them up never to be seen again.


There are so many agendas at play, arguments can be spun in any direction for or against removing Biden. From where i'm standing, the vote is either for or against democracy, so it really doesn't matter who the focal point of that is, its the principle that is at stake
bots is offline  
Old 01-07-2024, 04:07 PM #4
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,725
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,725
Default

arista is offline  
Old 01-07-2024, 04:59 PM #5
Liam-'s Avatar
Liam- Liam- is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Cardiff.
Posts: 23,958

Favourites (more):
BB19: Lewis F
CBB21: Shane Jenek


Liam- Liam- is offline
Senior Member
Liam-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Cardiff.
Posts: 23,958

Favourites (more):
BB19: Lewis F
CBB21: Shane Jenek


Default

Biden is old, Trump is old, but he’s also a convicted felon, he’s been found liable for sexual assault, him and his family are barred from heading up charities in New York because they stole from their childhood cancer charity, he’s publicly, specifically said that he wants to be a dictator.

The kind, bumbly old man, is the obviously better choice than the elderly, life long criminal
__________________
Liam- is offline  
Old 01-07-2024, 05:04 PM #6
Zizu's Avatar
Zizu Zizu is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 40,155
Zizu Zizu is offline
Senior Member
Zizu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 40,155
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Liam- View Post
Biden is old, Trump is old, but he’s also a convicted felon, he’s been found liable for sexual assault, him and his family are barred from heading up charities in New York because they stole from their childhood cancer charity, he’s publicly, specifically said that he wants to be a dictator.

The kind, bumbly old man, is the obviously better choice than the elderly, life long criminal

Neither would be trusted to run the local allotment so it is unbelievable that one will rule the world soon


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Zizu is offline  
Old 01-07-2024, 05:08 PM #7
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 105,576


Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 105,576


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zizu View Post
Neither would be trusted to run the local allotment so it is unbelievable that one will rule the world soon


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
at least one would not be stood in the middle of the potato drills frozen in a brain fog waiting for his carer Jill to come and lead him by the hand away to the safety of their shed
Crimson Dynamo is offline  
Old 01-07-2024, 05:11 PM #8
Zizu's Avatar
Zizu Zizu is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 40,155
Zizu Zizu is offline
Senior Member
Zizu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 40,155
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet View Post
at least one would not be stood in the middle of the potato drills frozen in a brain fog waiting for his carer Jill to come and lead him by the hand away to the safety of their shed

But the other would have to be supervised if there were any females around ..


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Zizu is offline  
Old 01-07-2024, 10:59 PM #9
Mystic Mock's Avatar
Mystic Mock Mystic Mock is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: with joeysteele.
Posts: 65,752

Favourites (more):
BB2024: Sarah
BBCanada 9: Rohan


Mystic Mock Mystic Mock is offline
Senior Member
Mystic Mock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: with joeysteele.
Posts: 65,752

Favourites (more):
BB2024: Sarah
BBCanada 9: Rohan


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zizu View Post
But the other would have to be supervised if there were any females around ..


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
And for once we're not talking about Hugh Hefner.
__________________


Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink and River Song as my Strictly 2025 Sweepstakes, and eventual winner and runner-up of the series.
Mystic Mock is offline  
Old 01-07-2024, 06:14 PM #10
GoldHeart's Avatar
GoldHeart GoldHeart is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 28,692

Favourites (more):
BB2024: Khaled
BB2023: Trish


GoldHeart GoldHeart is offline
Senior Member
GoldHeart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 28,692

Favourites (more):
BB2024: Khaled
BB2023: Trish


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zizu View Post
Neither would be trusted to run the local allotment so it is unbelievable that one will rule the world soon


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
This
__________________
GoldHeart is offline  
Old 01-07-2024, 05:17 PM #11
Oliver_W Oliver_W is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Bill's Secret Garden
Posts: 17,796

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 8: Chris
Apprentice 2019: Lottie


Oliver_W Oliver_W is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Bill's Secret Garden
Posts: 17,796

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 8: Chris
Apprentice 2019: Lottie


Default

Either one of them could wake up dead tomorrow. I think a Trump presidency would be funnier (like last time) but otherwise I barely care about either.
__________________

Oliver_W is offline  
Old 01-07-2024, 05:40 PM #12
bots's Avatar
bots bots is offline
self-oscillating
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 52,951

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


bots bots is offline
self-oscillating
bots's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 52,951

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


Default

trump has said often enough he is going to seek retribution. He has also preached hate at every turn. He wants those who committed violence and murdered police on Jan 6th set free. Double standards? Are you having a laugh?
bots is offline  
Old 01-07-2024, 06:12 PM #13
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 105,576


Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 105,576


Thumbs down

Quote:
Originally Posted by bitontheslide View Post
trump has said often enough he is going to seek retribution. He has also preached hate at every turn. He wants those who committed violence and murdered police on Jan 6th set free. Double standards? Are you having a laugh?
Please do not make apologies for violent leftists like this

Do you not remember David Amess or Jo Cox?

Crimson Dynamo is offline  
Old 01-07-2024, 05:58 PM #14
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,725
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,725
Default

arista is offline  
Old 01-07-2024, 06:31 PM #15
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 105,576


Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 105,576


Default

well they wont rule the world - they will just be the figurehead for the USA which is a mid size country in the Northern Hemisphere
Crimson Dynamo is offline  
Old 02-07-2024, 03:04 AM #16
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,725
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,725
Default

[Presenter of BBC Radio 4's Briefing Room]

They should remove him
from that job.

That Tweet would have been deleted
I would think.
arista is offline  
Old 02-07-2024, 07:05 AM #17
hijaxers hijaxers is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Bristol
Posts: 13,824


hijaxers hijaxers is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Bristol
Posts: 13,824


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by arista View Post
[Presenter of BBC Radio 4's Briefing Room]

They should remove him
from that job.

That Tweet would have been deleted
I would think.
Agreed but this is the BBC ! more likely a promotion ..
hijaxers is offline  
Old 02-07-2024, 06:39 AM #18
bots's Avatar
bots bots is offline
self-oscillating
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 52,951

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


bots bots is offline
self-oscillating
bots's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 52,951

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


Default

I've been watching how people are reacting to this.

The first point is that the dem machine keeps going back to it was one bad debate and trump is a very bad man. What they are not acknowledging is that it wasn't a bad debate, it thrust a spotlight onto the decline of Biden and his capability to do the job and that has nothing to do with the debate or whether his opposition is a bad man.

They keep saying it was a one off and that he is never normally like that. Well, no-one believes that for a second. They carefully stage manage Biden appearances. If it truly was a one off, he would have been out doing live chat shows with adhoc comments, town hall events, etc etc etc to prove it. No such events are planned. There can only be one reason for that, he isn't up to it.

The dems put out polling numbers of all the main replacements were worse than Biden, but they really weren't, only maybe by a point our 2 and this was the polling before the debate. After the debate, they could easily be ahead of Biden.

The dems are basically telling everyone who disagrees with their position to shut up and get behind Biden. That is a strategy that is doomed to failure. The dems are going to lose the election on the current trajectory, and it seems unlikely they are going to shift from the path unless there is a bloodbath within the democratic party to sort it out.

They keep saying that Reagan and Obama had very bad first debates and still won, but both of them were miles ahead in the polls at the time, Biden was already behind in the polls. That's why it was agreed to do the debate in the first place. It was to change the course of the campaign and put Biden on a winning trajectory. You won't hear any of the dem elites saying that now

The only people that Biden seems to listen to for advice are his wife and Hunter. Are they effectively running the presidency?, because that is what it implies

Last edited by bots; 02-07-2024 at 07:06 AM.
bots is offline  
Old 02-07-2024, 07:43 AM #19
Beso's Avatar
Beso Beso is offline
Piss orf.
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 47,922

Favourites:
BB4: Cameron


Beso Beso is offline
Piss orf.
Beso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 47,922

Favourites:
BB4: Cameron


Default

King of immunity.
Beso is offline  
Old 02-07-2024, 08:21 AM #20
bots's Avatar
bots bots is offline
self-oscillating
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 52,951

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


bots bots is offline
self-oscillating
bots's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 52,951

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


Default

With the supreme court on Trump's side, it doesn't now even matter who "wins" the election. He will just appeal it up to the supreme court and they will side with him. So whoever ends up being the dem candidate has lost before a vote is counted
bots is offline  
Old 02-07-2024, 08:33 AM #21
Liam-'s Avatar
Liam- Liam- is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Cardiff.
Posts: 23,958

Favourites (more):
BB19: Lewis F
CBB21: Shane Jenek


Liam- Liam- is offline
Senior Member
Liam-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Cardiff.
Posts: 23,958

Favourites (more):
BB19: Lewis F
CBB21: Shane Jenek


Default

It only goes to the Supreme Court if the election ends in a tie, if (when) Trump loses the election decisively again, there will be no grounds for it to be appealed
__________________
Liam- is offline  
Old 02-07-2024, 08:57 AM #22
bots's Avatar
bots bots is offline
self-oscillating
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 52,951

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


bots bots is offline
self-oscillating
bots's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 52,951

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Liam- View Post
It only goes to the Supreme Court if the election ends in a tie, if (when) Trump loses the election decisively again, there will be no grounds for it to be appealed
thats not true, it can go to the supreme court if they claim fraud etc. However, Biden can now commit fraud and be immune, so it's all gone to crazy town.

I think americans need to wake up to the reality that trump is more likely to be the next president than not
bots is offline  
Old 02-07-2024, 09:10 AM #23
James's Avatar
James James is offline
Jolly good
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 29,334


James James is offline
Jolly good
James's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 29,334


Default

The difference to 2020 is that if Trump loses this time he will have nothing to hang on to.
James is offline  
Old 02-07-2024, 09:45 AM #24
Oliver_W Oliver_W is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Bill's Secret Garden
Posts: 17,796

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 8: Chris
Apprentice 2019: Lottie


Oliver_W Oliver_W is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Bill's Secret Garden
Posts: 17,796

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 8: Chris
Apprentice 2019: Lottie


Default

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	FB_IMG_1719913408777.jpg
Views:	53
Size:	111.7 KB
ID:	5946  
Oliver_W is offline  
Old 02-07-2024, 05:34 PM #25
Maru's Avatar
Maru Maru is offline
1.5x speed
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Houston, TX USA
Posts: 11,719

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Jordan
CBB22: Gabby Allen


Maru Maru is offline
1.5x speed
Maru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Houston, TX USA
Posts: 11,719

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Jordan
CBB22: Gabby Allen


Default

Literally no one I know is excited about this upcoming election or politics in general. It's as if most are just minding their own business and checking out of the rat race.

Trump, if he loses, wouldn't be able to do another campaign in 4 years time I don't imagine, for the simple fact he really would be too old. I don't think he has Biden's personality where he'd rather run the country living off a vent rather than to pass to someone more capable. He'd just quit and undermine his replacement in a raging (but senile) manner.

Nothing really changes for me, except that one party will be in to chip away at the foundation, whether it's the Constitution or economically speaking, while the other is out of play. We never hear of a politician that believes in leaving well enough alone.

Last edited by Maru; 02-07-2024 at 05:35 PM.
Maru is offline  
Register to reply Log in to reply

Bookmark/share this topic

Tags
1st, 2024, 27th, 2am, biden, cnn, debate, hd, june, live, thursday, trump, trump or biden, usa


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 05:20 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

About Us ThisisBigBrother.com

"Big Brother and UK Television Forum. Est. 2001"

 

© 2023
no new posts