[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Alf

OK, let's have a different question.

What should we do to China if it turns out that this was an on purpose, biological attack?

Now you are talkling, it is more likely to be this than natural

Chinese New Year last weekend I didn't hear a word about restrictions in China, maybe I missed it?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Me old mum is getting out of hops at weekend, covid free!

Great news

[Cherie]

I must be on the naughty step

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Me old mum is getting out of hops at weekend, covid free!

Great belated birthday for her.

Brilliant news

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Me old mum is getting out of hops at weekend, covid free!

...Mrs LT Senior.....

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Me old mum is getting out of hops at weekend, covid free!

Glad to hear!

[bots]

Originally Posted by Alf

Are you seriously afraid to answer a simple question?

It was a simple question and yet goalposts are moved with every reply.

Use your imagination, if you need to, if you've got one.

if you quit being a troll you might get a fuller response

[Beso]

Glad to hear that LT..

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Me old mum is getting out of hops at weekend, covid free!

Awww, brilliant news LT, hope you get to see her soon.xx

[arista]

[Scarlett.]

I think they should send schools back, but maybe not all at once

[Vicky.]

Public hesitant about bars and restaurants eh? I hardly expect to see them dead if they open

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Scarlett.

I think they should send schools back, but maybe not all at once

Even though the infection rate is increasing in some areas plus plateauing in others like ours in Gtr Manchester ?

This is when we are all in lockdown !

Also knowing this ...?




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[Nicky91]

Netherlands: most MP's back new curfew plans

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/0...are-in-favour/

[Ammi]

Beach ‘super spreader’ theory was a myth...




They were images that seemed to define a hot, febrile, and dangerous summer: massed ranks of daytrippers swamping Britain’s beaches, making the most of the June sunshine after months of restrictions – and, some front pages suggested, creating an appalling risk of coronavirus infection.

Eight months later, the headlines tell a different story: there was no real danger at all.

According to Prof Mark Woolhouse, an epidemiologist at Edinburgh University who sits on the government’s SPI-M committee, the chance of a super-spreader event among the crowds that turned up from Bournemouth to Southend was minimal in theory – and nonexistent in practice.

“Over the summer we were treated to all this on the television news, pictures of crowded beaches, and there was an outcry about this,” he told MPs. “There were no outbreaks linked to public beaches. There’s never been a Covid-19 outbreak linked to a beach, ever, anywhere in the world, to the best of my knowledge.”

If that version of events seems at odds with stern warnings from the health secretary, Matt Hancock, that outdoor exercise could be banned, and an accusation that sunbathers were putting lives at risk, it is wholly consistent with the scientific evidence, other experts agree.



...full article...


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/beach-supe...070000945.html

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

Beach ‘super spreader’ theory was a myth...




They were images that seemed to define a hot, febrile, and dangerous summer: massed ranks of daytrippers swamping Britain’s beaches, making the most of the June sunshine after months of restrictions – and, some front pages suggested, creating an appalling risk of coronavirus infection.

Eight months later, the headlines tell a different story: there was no real danger at all.

According to Prof Mark Woolhouse, an epidemiologist at Edinburgh University who sits on the government’s SPI-M committee, the chance of a super-spreader event among the crowds that turned up from Bournemouth to Southend was minimal in theory – and nonexistent in practice.

“Over the summer we were treated to all this on the television news, pictures of crowded beaches, and there was an outcry about this,” he told MPs. “There were no outbreaks linked to public beaches. There’s never been a Covid-19 outbreak linked to a beach, ever, anywhere in the world, to the best of my knowledge.”

If that version of events seems at odds with stern warnings from the health secretary, Matt Hancock, that outdoor exercise could be banned, and an accusation that sunbathers were putting lives at risk, it is wholly consistent with the scientific evidence, other experts agree.



...full article...


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/beach-supe...070000945.html

Sage didn’t come out 8 months ago and shut this down though did they ...given how little was known about the virus at the time, and flocking to beaches left a lot of residents uneasy as the crowds arriving weren’t what they were normally used to as there was little else to do and it also created overcrowded transport so by default there had to be some spread on trains/buses?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Sage didn’t come out 8 months ago and shut this down though did they ...given how little was known about the virus at the time, and flocking to beaches left a lot of residents uneasy as the crowds arriving weren’t what they were normally used to as there was little else to do and it also created overcrowded transport so by default there had to be some spread on trains/buses?

...this is why it can often feel confusing and conflicting etc, Cherie...because even when being guided by ‘science information and experts etc’...there are often differing views on many aspects...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Even though the infection rate is increasing in some areas plus plateauing in others like ours in Gtr Manchester ?

This is when we are all in lockdown !

Also knowing this ...?




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Have you had your vac Zizu, at the school my friend works at most of them were vaccinated this week and they are due to return next week and all students have been invited back, they are arguing that the vac takes 3 weeks to kick in so they should still be running the school for key workers kids only for the next 3 weeks, the union is involved...it’s a special school so working differently to mainstream

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...this is why it can often feel confusing and conflicting etc, Cherie...because even when being guided by ‘science information and experts etc’...there are often differing views on many aspects...

I think he is right in what is is saying, outdoors, UV light etc but it’s a bit odd of him to claim we knew this all along given it’s a new virus

[Nicky91]

yes back in court today for the curfew, hope we can win this against those vile anti-masker scum

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Have you had your vac Zizu, at the school my friend works at most of them were vaccinated this week and they are due to return next week and all students have been invited back, they are arguing that the vac takes 3 weeks to kick in so they should still be running the school for key workers kids only for the next 3 weeks, the union is involved...it’s a special school so working differently to mainstream

Hi
I was supposed to have the Pfizer jab on Tuesday but they rang and cancelled !!

What’s that all about !!

Great for my anxiety levels as you can imagine...I was just starting to improve until I got the cancellation phone call


It’s been rescheduled for next TUESDAY ... hopefully...


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Have you had your vac Zizu, at the school my friend works at most of them were vaccinated this week and they are due to return next week and all students have been invited back, they are arguing that the vac takes 3 weeks to kick in so they should still be running the school for key workers kids only for the next 3 weeks, the union is involved...it’s a special school so working differently to mainstream

The whole thing is a mess ....
One of our friends works in a primary school of 190 pupils but in this lockdown they have had 135 of them in school !!




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[Nicky91]

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

4.761 new cases

200 new hospitalisations 5 less than yesterday (1.943 in total)

20 new ICU patients 13 less than yesterday (510 in total)

50 new deaths

[arista]

Friday 19/2/21

Today 533 have died.


12,207 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
19,392

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
2,535

119,920 Total UK deaths.


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/