[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Starbucks are masters of folding to a bit of social media pressure.

"No you can't do that"
"Umm we will stop buying coffee from u"
"WAIT hold on hold on hold on how can we help you? We LOVE what you are doing. We will do it FOR you."

Not that I'm saying they should have disallowed BLM stuff, I just find their total lack of resolve on all issues amusing.

Yep, you can't do anything.... unless it has the Starbucks branding on.

[arista]

[Protesters gather in support of the Black Lives Matter movement
for a protest action in Hyde Park]

[GiRTh]

Youtube video

The Chris Dorner bit

"We saw ourselves like you saw yourselves” - Dave Chapelle

[Denver]

27 year old Rayshard Brooks was murded by police in Atlanta last night, he is the latest black man to be killed by police

[arista]

Originally Posted by Denver

27 year old Rayshard Brooks was murded by police in Atlanta last night, he is the latest black man to be killed by police

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53037953


Yes
A Wendys Burgers Drive through ,
is now on Fire
The place it went on in the car park.

Atlanta Police Chief & Mayor
have resigned.



[It had started late on Friday night when police
were called to reports of a man sleeping
in a car and blocking a drive-thru lane at a Wendy's restaurant.
The bureau's director, Vic Reynolds,
said Mr Brooks had grabbed a Taser from
one officer and pointed it towards him as he ran.
After running a short distance,
Mr Brooks "turns around and it appears to
the eye that he points the Taser
at the Atlanta officer", Mr Reynolds said,
in comments reported by NBC.
"At that point, the Atlanta officer reaches
down and retrieves his weapon from his holster,
discharges it, strikes Mr Brooks there
on the parking lot, and he goes down."]

https://news.sky.com/story/atlanta-p...ficer-12006386

[Denver]

He was murdered after taken a police taser and running away, a taser is not a life threatening weapon so no matter what they should never shoot to kill

[Oliver_W]

The cladding thing being treated like a race-battle is odd, anyone can end up in a crappy block of flats. Of course all buildings with that cladding should be sorted out, and those rendered homeless by the fire should be given new homes, but there's no need to make it a race thing?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

The cladding thing being treated like a race-battle is odd, anyone can end up in a crappy block of flats. Of course all buildings with that cladding should be sorted out, and those rendered homeless by the fire should be given new homes, but there's no need to make it a race thing?

Wasn't made a race battle, I made it a justice and protest thing. It's actually widely about class and I can prove it really easily. If the grenfell fire had happened to the gherkin, do you think the cladding on all similar structures would have been replaced by now? Would it be functional again, or would it have been pulled down by now with a replacement building already being erected, and would the people renting office space have been relocated by now?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Wasn't made a race battle, I made it a justice and protest thing. It's actually widely about class and I can prove it really easily. If the grenfell fire had happened to the gherkin, do you think the cladding on all similar structures would have been replaced by now? Would it be functional again, or would it have been pulled down by now with a replacement building already being erected, and would the people renting office space have been relocated by now?

That's different because the Gherkin is full of multi-million pound businesses, whereas people only lived in Grenfel

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

That's different because the Gherkin is full of multi-million pound businesses, whereas people only lived in Grenfel

Exactly, so it's about class.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Wasn't made a race battle, I made it a justice and protest thing. It's actually widely about class and I can prove it really easily. If the grenfell fire had happened to the gherkin, do you think the cladding on all similar structures would have been replaced by now? Would it be functional again, or would it have been pulled down by now with a replacement building already being erected, and would the people renting office space have been relocated by now?

To be fair, all of it is a class battle, however race and class are intricately interwoven so a race battle can be a class battle and a class battle can become a race battle. Mostly because race is the easiest way for people to automatically assume class. They dont discriminate because someone is black, they discriminate because they think they are lesser (classist). But, they make the assumption that they are likely to be lesser because they are black (racist).

There are of course a small number of flat-out biological race supremacists, but when it comes down to it, for the vast majority of casual racists the feeling of superiority is socioeconomic, and the racist part is the assumption of socioeconomic status through physical appearance.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To be fair, all of it is a class battle, however race and class are intricately interwoven so a race battle can be a class battle and a class battle can become a race battle. Mostly because race is the easiest way for people to automatically assume class. They dont discriminate because someone is black, they discriminate because they think they are lesser (classist). But, they make the assumption that they are likely to be lesser because they are black (racist).

There are of course a small number of flat-out biological race supremacists, but when it comes down to it, for the vast majority of casual racists the feeling of superiority is socioeconomic, and the racist part is the assumption of socioeconomic status through physical appearance.

Not sure I agree entirely. Making poor people fight and blame each other regardless of colour is absolutely a genuine strategy, but I still think poor people from minorities are viewed as "lower" than poor whites. At least societally.

It's the difference that is always highlighted; the weird clothes, the stupid names, ramadamadingdong, overbreeding etc. They're always painted as having nefarious intentions, so blacks always wanted your daughters, muslims want to take over our country and rule us, coming for our jobs etc. There is a distinction between the classism that incorporates everyone and the racism that doesn't.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

The cladding thing being treated like a race-battle is odd, anyone can end up in a crappy block of flats. Of course all buildings with that cladding should be sorted out, and those rendered homeless by the fire should be given new homes, but there's no need to make it a race thing?

Ok let's make it a class thing, if it were flats that MPS live in would they be on the position the tenants of Grenfell are?

[Liam-]

[user104658]

An easy illustration I guess, is that in most "racist white areas", if they saw a black celebrity (let's say Will Smith) hopping out of their expensive car in the street, they would be over the ****ing moon, telling him how much they love his movies, pestering for an autograph. They don't care that he's a black man - they KNOW he has enhanced social status. They wouldn't prefer it to be a white celebrity. Certainly not a lower-status white celebrity.

If they saw a black man they've never seen before they'd call the police. Because they're racist, yes, in assuming that an unknown black man is likely to be a criminal - and that's the part they hate/fear.

[Liam-]

Fair trade

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Fair trade

YES!!! This needs to happen

[Zizu]

What’s going on with Sky and their headlines?
They have a moving banner saying a Black guy who had fallen asleep in his car was shot and killed by police .. yet I’ve read elsewhere that he was drunk , resisted arrest , fought two cops off and managed to get hold of one of their tasers , pointed it at the cop who then reacted by shooting him dead .

It’s an awful story and at worst I’d have expected the cop to shoot to immobilise the guy rather than killing ... but the Sky headline seems misleading IF what I read about the incident was correct


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[Glenn.]

Why is there even a statue of a KKK leader?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Why is there even a statue of a KKK leader?

It goes back before we were all born.

USA was once under our Control.

[Brother Leon]

What an absolute disgrace.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

What an absolute disgrace.

What london riots is this then?

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by parmnion

What london riots is this then?

Can’t speak for the Facist, but Digga went to the Parliament Square peaceful protest.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Can’t speak for the Facist, but Digga went to the Parliament Square peaceful protest.

There was no riots.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

What an absolute disgrace.

Do we know there was no consequence for EDL twat?