[Jack_]

I can't believe Day actually voted for Paul I know she sung Nicole's praises at the roundtable but she did with Paul too and she literally said 'as long as it's not Paul' when asked who got evicted wtf

This is without question the worst season of BBUS/BBCan I've watched live (since 2013) and Nicole is probably my least favourite winner of all of them

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I can't believe Day actually voted for Paul I know she sung Nicole's praises at the roundtable but she did with Paul too and she literally said 'as long as it's not Paul' when asked who got evicted wtf

This is without question the worst season of BBUS/BBCan I've watched live (since 2013) and Nicole is probably my least favourite winner of all of them

She was a second boot and they brought her back, and they want to bring her back again. CBS owns and controls her.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

She was a second boot and they brought her back, and they want to bring her back again. CBS owns and controls her.

True, Grodcunt wanted this ending and that's what she got

[zakman440]

Very disappointing result (to be expected really given how the majority of the season has gone). Kind of makes me feel glad that my interest fizzled out in the past couple of weeks.

[Jack_]

King of trolling

[LukeB]

I don't even have an opinion on Nicole's win it's just meh, two years ago I would have been happy.. she's probs in the bottom 6 of the winners for me because I do prefer her win over Steve,Evil Dick,BB9 winner,Andy and maybe Jordan.. probably tied with Derrick because I don't care about him at all.

[SoberLikeGizmo]

Originally Posted by LukeB

I don't even have an opinion on Nicole's win it's just meh, two years ago I would have been happy.. she's probs in the bottom 6 of the winners for me because I do prefer her win over Steve,Evil Dick,BB9 winner,Andy and maybe Jordan.. probably tied with Derrick because I don't care about him at all.

Down there with rachel and Jordan. A bit better then them as she didn't have as much production rigging in her favor. She does sucks as a female and a human being

[SoberLikeGizmo]

At least victor won afp.

Lol Da'Vonne proven what a pathetic person she is once more. Can she seriously **** off now and never return.

Natalie also pathetic.

[Jack_]

On the plus side, I did get a winner prediction right for once!

And I guess a 5-4 vote is more interesting than the endless 7-2's or 6-3's

[AarynGriesfan]

I thought I would be happy to predict the winner right for once but nope I am pissed. Da'Vonne ruined another season. But god what a terrible decision to take Nicole over the slam dunk vs James.

[Jack_]

Yeah it's definitely up there as one of the dumbest ever moves, not quite on the scale of Cody taking Derrick but bad enough

[Jack_]

I told y'all she needed to go at F4. Corey wasn't winning ****

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I told y'all she needed to go at F4. Corey wasn't winning ****

Paul might have won if everyone voted for who they think played the best game but one silly bitch voted for a female because they are female so who knows.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Paul might have won if everyone voted for who they think played the best game but one silly bitch voted for a female because they are female so who knows.

or, like I just told you upthread, Paul could have had any sort of jury management and not unnecessarily bashed Natalie in her final week or at least give some form of an apology during her jury question. He has no one to blame but himself for losing that vote.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Paul might have won if everyone voted for who they think played the best game but one silly bitch voted for a female because they are female so who knows.

I don't think it's entirely fair to pin that solely on Natalie, you could say the same about Zakiyah (or rather she was just following orders from Paulie, idk what's worse), or Day. It's sad because if this jury (and the show) were doing this under the pretense of feminism then it's completely misplaced considering Nicole is the antithesis of everything feminism is

Ultimately though you mold your own path to the F2 and Paul shouldn't have taken Nicole, and he shouldn't have told James to keep her around at F4. It was already over

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I don't think it's entirely fair to pin that solely on Natalie, you could say the same about Zakiyah (or rather she was just following orders from Paulie, idk what's worse), or Day. It's sad because if this jury (and the show) were doing this under the pretense of feminism then it's completely misplaced considering Nicole is the antithesis of everything feminism is

Ultimately though you mold your own path to the F2 and Paul shouldn't have taken Nicole, and he shouldn't have told James to keep her around at F4. It was already over

Natalie has been soooooo desperate for a female to win and has said many times she would vote for a female. Zakiyah and Day don't harp on about girl power as much as Natalie does.

[Macie Lightfoot]

yeah, I know lots of people think Paul played an amazing game, and when you compare his to James's and Nicole's I do get it, but he made soooooooooo many mistakes with just general strategy and jury management and who he evicted at F3.

[SoberLikeGizmo]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

yeah, I know lots of people think Paul played an amazing game, and when you compare his to James's and Nicole's I do get it, but he made soooooooooo many mistakes with just general strategy and jury management and who he evicted at F3.

Agreed, but like you said compared to the other 2 he was the best of the 3.

Hes unlucky to have idiots like Davonne and Zak on the jury and feminests like Natalie on jury... I mean if Hitler had a vagina and was in the final 2, Natalie would probably vote for Hitler just because he had a vagina.

[JerseyWins]

Paul absolutely DESTROYED that final speech. One of the best closing statements I've ever seen on this show. (but he gave a lot of short, not very good answers during the questioning)

I loved Nicole during the jury questioning as well.

Heart-breaking that Paul got so close and lost a 5-4 vote but this was still a very good result.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

Paul absolutely DESTROYED that final speech. One of the best closing statements I've ever seen on this show. (but he gave a lot of short, not very good answers during the questioning)

I loved Nicole during the jury questioning as well.

Heart-breaking that Paul got so close and lost a 5-4 vote but this was still a very good result.

His final speech was one the best ones I've heard in a long time. Nicole's was good and it's such an improvement on Liz's one and Kelsey's.

5-4 made it more tense and I loved it.

[Macie Lightfoot]

or you could just pin it on Paul himself because he was a loud abrasive asshole all summer? Just a thought.

[SoberLikeGizmo]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

or you could just pin it on Paul himself because he was a loud abrasive asshole all summer? Just a thought.

Combination of both

Natalie would always vote for a girl even if she was the worst female in the world

Day and Zak are useless and stupid

I think Day will regret her decision

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

or you could just pin it on Paul himself because he was a loud abrasive asshole all summer? Just a thought.

Never denied that, but as you yourself acknowledged this is also what Grodner and co wanted, so it's what they got

Jordan and Dick spring to mind

[SoberLikeGizmo]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Never denied that, but as you yourself acknowledged this is also what Grodner and co wanted, so it's what they got

Jordan and Dick spring to mind

Add Rachel to that list as well

Again compared to Rachel and Jordan at least production were not obvious they wanted Nicole to win by rigging it for her. She gains merit for playing some sort of her own game, its just she has a awful personality and just sucks.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Never denied that, but as you yourself acknowledged this is also what Grodner and co wanted, so it's what they got

Jordan and Dick spring to mind

Oh absolutely, my only point here is that it wouldn't take any extra convincing to get Natalie to vote against Paul in the end. She spent the last month of the game mostly being upset with him for all the FT stuff and for all his needless bashing of her in her boot week and kicking her while she was down. Yeah Paul has a lot more credit on his resume than Nicole did, but his jury management was terrible and his end game had a lot of mistakes. You could name about five different reasons why he lost before even getting into production's behind the scenes work and all the pre-show connections to Derrick.