[science_to_win]

Originally posted by abbashop79
Nice to see some support on here, for people who see right through Makosi and appreciate the freedom to boo!

Thank you for the support. We need to stand up for our feelings! 12 week old feelings.

Makosi, see a doctor girl!

I think she'll need to after last nights events! I think I might too

[abbashop79]

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by abbashop79
Nice to see some support on here, for people who see right through Makosi and appreciate the freedom to boo!

Thank you for the support. We need to stand up for our feelings! 12 week old feelings.

Makosi, see a doctor girl!

It's not just about Makosi, the thread has been hijacked as usual by the Makosi haters. The crowd where horrid to Kinga too in the final. The crowd have been booing people even before the show started and they got to know the housemates. Anthony, Mary and Science were all booed going into the house this year

For me booing anyone that made the final week was just too much and it ruined what could have been a great night.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by BBViewer
To the other hypocrites on this board who are defending Makosi, well I'm sure there's no celebrities or famous people you don't dislike and wouldn't seise a chance at showing them how much you dislike them, given the chance...No I'm sure all you people are perfect, and never boo at a football match, or at a bad singer down you're local pub.

Total hypocrisy, and thats what IS digusting. Not the audience last night. Don't go round thinking your all so high and mighty because you're not.

BBViewer, I see you have decided to come on here and call people a bunch of hypocrites. Just so that we are 'on the same page', I didn't like Makosi, and my previous posts about her will make that clear - but I thought that the crowd went too far.

By the way, I have never booed any singer at my local pub, and I have never booed at a football match either.

Although I didn't like Makosi (she and Craig were my two least favourite housemates ever), I find it astonishing that people have so much contempt towards her - she was playing a game! Yes, she played it badly, and yes, she did and said some distasteful things - and a bit of booing was only to be expected. But, what about the people who voted for her to win - enough people wanted her to win for her to beat Craig and Kinga - did they not deserve to hear her interview? I cannot understand people who feel so much hatred towards someone that they have never met, and who they have only observed in an artificial environment - such anger would be better channelled elsewhere and put to a more constructive use.

Maybe it's just me, but I am uncomfortable seeing a so-called civilised bunch of people behaving in such a yobbish manner.

[abbashop79]

I've known yobs exist since I was a very small boy. I thought last night was quite tame compared to some football matches, in fact, any football match.

I'm not a hard man, I'm not tough, I'm not a yob. I can't stand watching football, but I love Pantomimes. And I really do like Punch & Judy shows maybe even more than Richard & Judy!


I'd say Kinga received boo's unfairly. But, I have to ask myself why theyre booing. As I say, it's all part of the show, and it let's me know more about the animals wondering around the UK that we label Human Beings.

I love booing, I really really do. It's humane...it certainly beats ordering her to be hung and be-headed in front of a live audience in the Town Square! We need a release, we've put up with Makosi's "Menopause" for 12 whole weeks!

Makosi's feelings matter, yes, but so do ours, and those of the housemates that WERE in that house.

They ARE (not were, but are) our friends. She hurt them, we let her know, without physically hurting her that she did wrong.. It's CALLED booing.

[Ocipital]

Personally I never liked the booing (didn't like it when Mel got in back in BB1). For the last couple of years booing has been the norm, I really dont like it.

The problem with the booing wasnt that they were booing Makosi, but that her interview was in front of the crowd. Given how few people have escaped being booed off It was gonna be a miracle for Makosi not to be booed, and in comparison to the other housemates who got it, she positivly desereved it. But she also deserved an interview away from that. Makosi was a great housemate, who I at times hated for engineering evictions of people I liked, but at the same time I enjoyed watching her do it.

[BBViewer]

People have freedom of speech in this country and so whats wrong with them booing? Its just an expression of how they feel, and like I said, it's only Makosi that got a really hard time that night, so you can't go round saying the crowd was out of control and a bunch of yobs.

Half the people probably didn't even mean the booing anyway, they were just doing it because everyone else was. If one person does it, then others are sure to follow.

You Makosi defenders don't seem to have grasped the fact that it is ONLY A TV SHOW, and so booing is expected.

I'm not surprised people are booing so much nowadays. Its the only way the public can vent their anger and make themselves heard. With all the betrayals and lies from our government and all the hatred in out country at the moment toward terrorists and such, it's no wonder a sheet of red mist has covered the BB audience. However, I'm just talking nonsense and making excuses for Makosi.

It boils down to this. Makosi was a nasty person in the house. The same happened to Nasty Nick (A public hate figure). The crowd weren't out of control, because they were nice as pie when some NICE housemates came out (Eugene and Anthony). Being booed for 10 minutes and not even attempting to do yourself any favours isn't that bad, considering the people she hurt inside the house. People like Kemal and Vanessa, both of whom were treated like cr*p by her.

Why in the name of anything on this earth should Makosi have been cheered and congratulated after what she did in that house?. Do you think it's right to promote lying, back stabbing and just general nastiness? If you do then it sems you're as 'bad' as the crowd you're criticising.

[Nikkos]

Originally posted by BBViewer

You Makosi defenders don't seem to have grasped the fact that it is ONLY A TV SHOW, and so booing is expected.

it is only a tv show, so tshe SHOULDN'T be booed, but thanx for the contribution to this post, its quite a popular subject int it lol

[Ruth]

Originally posted by BBViewer
People have freedom of speech in this country and so whats wrong with them booing? Its just an expression of how they feel, and like I said, it's only Makosi that got a really hard time that night, so you can't go round saying the crowd was out of control and a bunch of yobs.

Half the people probably didn't even mean the booing anyway, they were just doing it because everyone else was. If one person does it, then others are sure to follow.

You Makosi defenders don't seem to have grasped the fact that it is ONLY A TV SHOW, and so booing is expected.

I'm not surprised people are booing so much nowadays. Its the only way the public can vent their anger and make themselves heard. With all the betrayals and lies from our government and all the hatred in out country at the moment toward terrorists and such, it's no wonder a sheet of red mist has covered the BB audience. However, I'm just talking nonsense and making excuses for Makosi.

It boils down to this. Makosi was a nasty person in the house. The same happened to Nasty Nick (A public hate figure). The crowd weren't out of control, because they were nice as pie when some NICE housemates came out (Eugene and Anthony). Being booed for 10 minutes and not even attempting to do yourself any favours isn't that bad, considering the people she hurt inside the house. People like Kemal and Vanessa, both of whom were treated like cr*p by her.

Why in the name of anything on this earth should Makosi have been cheered and congratulated after what she did in that house?. Do you think it's right to promote lying, back stabbing and just general nastiness? If you do then it sems you're as 'bad' as the crowd you're criticising.

Yes we have freedom of speech in this country, so people have the freedom and right to say that they don't agree with the booing! We all have freedom of speech, not just the people you agree with

It's no defence to say some people were only booing because other people were - if that is the case, then they are just being sheep.

I am not a Makosi defender - I have said many many times that I really did not like her at all - she is one of my least favourite housemates every - but I don't think any of the housemates deserved that sort of reaction.

You mention the government, betrayal and lies, and people's feelings in this country - but by doing so, you have underlined the point I am trying to make. There are far more serious issues for people to get angry about; I think it shows how shallow some people can be if they choose to vent such animosity towards a contestant in a game show, compared to some of the other people in the world who have committed far worse crimes.

No I don't think Makosi deserved a rapturous applause from the crowd - I would have been surprised if she had got one. However, the people who keep saying, it's only a game show, so don't take the booing so seriously perhaps should remember it's only a game show so don't take Makosi's actions so seriously.

I wanted Anthony to win, and I was able to hear his interview with Davina (although after hearing his and Eugene's interviews, I almost wish Eugene had won, but that's another matter). A lot of people wanted Makosi to win, otherwise she would have been out before Craig - they weren't able to listen to her interview, because it was hijacked by the crowd. Davina did nothing whatsoever to help matters either; she was completely out of her depth.

[bananarama]

I have never heard anything ao absurd and arrogant to claim people have the "right to boo" under the excuse of it being a free country. That is as down right stupid and arrogant as saying you have a "right" to abuse people... No one has a "right" to abuse.

I wonder how many of the cowards that boo would do so if the victim was able and likely to take pysical revenge......If that were the case most of these mindless booing arrogant cowards would be as quiet as a lamb......

[Sunny_01]

Originally posted by bananarama
I have never heard anything ao absurd and arrogant to claim people have the "right to boo" under the excuse of it being a free country. That is as down right stupid and arrogant as saying you have a "right" to abuse people... No one has a "right" to abuse.

I wonder how many of the cowards that boo would do so if the victim was able and likely to take pysical revenge......If that were the case most of these mindless booing arrogant cowards would be as quiet as a lamb......

Well said Bananarama - being someone who does not like Makosi I still felt that her treatment was wrong. I do however disagree with some people that feel Davina should have been able to control the crowd and that she in fact incited their behaviour. Davina is there to ask questions of the HM's not to police the crowds, that is what security are there for.

[bananarama]

The problem with davina this year is she did'nt even try to calm the situation. As I have said on another posting I think a polite request from her to the crowd to be silent until after the interview might have worked simply because they respect her as the interviewer.

She made no attemt to do so but instead made jokes that in essence gave a green light to the yobs to continue abusing a contestant...So I believe this year she as well as the security and all the mix of organisers need to share the blame for the mess of it all.......

[backtherighthorse]

I think that Davina was totaly unprofessional on Friday. Letting her own personal opinions take over the interview and deliberately not displaying any of the warmth and humour she was admireed for. It looked like she was pandering to the crowd and trying to break her. It was especially more disgusting as she was not as unpleasant to Craig Max and Saskia, who in my opinion were far worse than Makosi was.

If you think that Davina/Channel4 was out of line in inciting the crowd to boo Makosi and should have done more to control the baying crowd and her interview technique was biased and inflammed the situation please post your grievances/complaints to offcom the t.v regulator. They take complaints very seriously and may make it possible for such a spectacle to happen again.

Please cut and paste this link on other threads before this one is pulled.

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/advice/contact/tv_radio_other

You could write or phone channel 4 but ofcom have the power to not let it happen again. Here's channel4's details:

If you want to register a complaint about the crowd booing and chanting call Channel 4 on this number 020 7306 8333

Or write to them at this address:
Channel 4 Television
124 Horseferry Road
London
SW1P 2TX

[selfinflicted]

Originally posted by bananarama
I have never heard anything ao absurd and arrogant to claim people have the "right to boo" under the excuse of it being a free country. That is as down right stupid and arrogant as saying you have a "right" to abuse people... No one has a "right" to abuse.

I wonder how many of the cowards that boo would do so if the victim was able and likely to take pysical revenge......If that were the case most of these mindless booing arrogant cowards would be as quiet as a lamb......

Why do you have to be so evangelical about it? I could understand if this had happened at some fund raiser for the local WI or something. But big brother, the show renowned for cynicism and sadistic evilness? It's hardly the ideal role model is it? Surely BB cannot turn round to the crowd, after 12 weeks of mind bending inhumanity, and say they've got to behave like angels?
Personally, I haven't liked the atmosphere of BB since the series that Cameron won. I think it has become degrading to watch. However, I wouldn't then proclaim to be shocked and come forth with the 'holier than thou' stuff when it produces a reaction entirely in keeping with the general theme of the show. Especially when that reaction is debatabley justified.

[science_to_win]

Originally posted by selfinflicted

Why do you have to be so evangelical about it? I could understand if this had happened at some fund raiser for the local WI or something. But big brother, the show renowned for cynicism and sadistic evilness? It's hardly the ideal role model is it? Surely BB cannot turn round to the crowd, after 12 weeks of mind bending inhumanity, and say they've got to behave like angels?
Personally, I haven't liked the atmosphere of BB since the series that Cameron won. I think it has become degrading to watch. However, I wouldn't then proclaim to be shocked and come forth with the 'holier than thou' stuff when it produces a reaction entirely in keeping with the general theme of the show. Especially when that reaction is debatabley justified.

it's bothering me that I agree with some of what you say

[selfinflicted]

Originally posted by science_to_win

it's bothering me that I agree with some of what you say

LOL, stranger things have happened!

[Z]

I was at the Aberdeen vs Rangers match today (we won 3-2! at last!), and I booed Rangers.


I'm a mild mannered person. But when someone is on a high horse, thinks they are better than someone, it's so great to see their demise.

THAT is one of the main reasons that Makosi got such a spectacular boo...

Plus, the girl left there without any real friends.

Even Vanessa looked a bit disgusted with her. That's saying something...

The boo's were unnecessary to that extent. She definitely deserved them, but where were the cheers?

[selfinflicted]

Originally posted by Ziola
I was at the Aberdeen vs Rangers match today (we won 3-2! at last!), and I booed Rangers.


I'm a mild mannered person. But when someone is on a high horse, thinks they are better than someone, it's so great to see their demise.

THAT is one of the main reasons that Makosi got such a spectacular boo...

Plus, the girl left there without any real friends.

Even Vanessa looked a bit disgusted with her. That's saying something...

The boo's were unnecessary to that extent. She definitely deserved them, but where were the cheers?

At home with their feet up probably. Or complaining on here.

[Red Moon]

Are we all still going on about this!

This thread just seems to go round in circles!

[Sunny_01]

I agree Red - do you think that this thread has maybe ran its course?

[science_to_win]

Dont be silly. People are still passionate about it. I still have smoke coming out of my ears. Lets vent our anger. It will be over soon

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by science_to_win
Dont be silly. People are still passionate about it. I still have smoke coming out of my ears. Lets vent our anger. It will be over soon

That's fine but can we have something new to read about the subject..... people are just repeating the same stuff again and again.

[ThaGazBoi]

i agree science_to_win it was totally out of order

[Kaz]

I don't think people are really taking issue with Makosi being booed when she left the BB House.

Much as I hate to hear it, it HAS become 'par for the course' during recent BB series.

What people ARE objecting to are the yobbish chants of 'Off, Off, Off' during Makosi's interview. Which Davina did absolutely nothing to try and stop.

.... or was I watching a completely different final?

[ThaGazBoi]

This is true Kaz, she made it worse by saying 'You seem to show no remorse whatever'