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[It's starting again, as it has before,
the slow digging up and highlighting
of anything negative to any Labour leader really.
To do anything to protect this creep in power now.]


Yes Joey it has
but this thread must have it all
his Party Political Broadcast last week
was good, except for the Music backing
which made it into to a future movie clip.
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im waiting on a PM that will tell the truth, you wouldn't think that was a big ask. Sadly, i'm not convinced Keir is anymore truthful than the current incumbent
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[It's starting again, as it has before,
the slow digging up and highlighting
of anything negative to any Labour leader really.
To do anything to protect this creep in power now.]


Yes Joey it has
but this thread must have it all
his Party Political Broadcast last week
was good, except for the Music backing
which made it into to a future movie clip.
I don't think great harm is being done to him by the tittle tattle nonsense going on.

I think he has far more integrity than Johnson in his fingers than Johnson has all through.

Hard-line Con supporters won't agree and will at best say Starmer is no better than Johnson, however in my view he is.

Even at this stage with under 4 years to go to an election.
Anything can happen, however I'd doubt Labour can win an election under Starmer.
I think a hung parliament will likely result again.
I doubt that even Johnson will be leading the Cons then too.

A hung parliament worries me however, as I feel the UK no matter the broken divided situation the UK could be heading to.
What is needed is a colossal social change as to policies are required to rebuild justly and more compassionately after this pandemic is much more controlled.

For me that won't come from the Cons, no way.
I also can't see Labour under Starmer getting anything like the mandate for those changes either.

Which is why, I will work for and hope the Labour party under Starmer will embrace PR for elections in future if elected.
That I think is the only policy that will ignite interest of the majority of voters.

Although that will start major panic in the Con party and among their hard-line supporters..
Because it should mean NO party, none of them, will be likely to ever be able to govern again alone, only with consensus.
Which the Cons will absolutely hate.

Thereby removing whatever extremes there may be as to any.

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That would be the death knell for Labour I reckon.
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Except it's not true. Starmer is openly expelling the left of his party, and no one is calling for JMcD.
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lol this shadow government make Jezza look like he knows what he was doing.
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lol this shadow government make Jezza look like he knows what he was doing.
All the things Corbyn was accused of doing - the Stalinist purges etc, are being done under KS, but no one says anything because he isnt a threat to the establishment - he is the establishment.

Starmer has suspended Jews for antisemitism. Honestly, and not a word in the media about it.
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Well it doesn't in any way surprise me that Starmer is on 33%.
The most surprising and really puzzling thing for me is that 33% think Johnson a good PM.

That it's even possible a third of those polled think Johnson a best PM is to me really concerning after his display of near total incompetence.

The excuse for Starmer can be no one can know until he was or if he became PM really.
However they've already seen this inept PM in the job now.
So no excuses there.


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[Woke radicals in the Oxford University Labour Club
have condemned
former Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell for participating
in a panel event with “known transphobe”.
Selina Todd, a professor at one of the
colleges with supposedly
“a transphobic history”.
Even the glorious leaders of the Corbyn
revolution aren’t safe from the woke
march for perfection.]

[A statement released by the club say
they are “disappointed to
hear about John McDonnell’s acceptance” to appear at
the event “and have contacted
him directly to urge him to reconsider”]

https://order-order.com/2021/02/12/o...r-transphobia/
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[Woke radicals in the Oxford University Labour Club
have condemned
former Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell for participating
in a panel event with “known transphobe”.
Selina Todd, a professor at one of the
colleges with supposedly
“a transphobic history”.
*
Even the glorious leaders of the Corbyn
revolution aren’t safe from the woke
march for perfection.]

[A statement released by the club say
they are “disappointed to
hear about John McDonnell’s acceptance” to appear at
the event “and have contacted
him directly to urge him to reconsider”]

https://order-order.com/2021/02/12/o...r-transphobia/
*for known transphobe..read woman who has legitimate queries and concerns in all likelihood
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Keir has yet another Speech
today - NewsnightHD bbc2
began with him.


Last time it was his Mother.

Social Democracy,
and the Failed Conservatives.

It is still the Corbyn split?


Will have a Flag behind him?

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Keir is Live


Radio 5
LBC
SkyNewsHD
BBCnewsHD

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He is saying the Mistakes
the Conservatives are making
are what they always made.

He said a Roadmap to Yesterday?


If Keir was Prime Minister
he would bring in a Recovery Bond


Its Like an Election Speech

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He is taking Media questions now
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[11:25

Starmer suggests recovery bond to
help rebuild the economy
In what sounds like the first major policy
announcement of his speech so far,
Sir Keir floats the idea
of a "British recovery bond".
He says it would "raise billions".
Trying to paint Labour as a fiscally-responsible party,
he says he understands the value of people's
hard-earned money they pay in taxes.

"For too long Labour has failed to realise
that the only way to deliver social justice
and equality is through a strong partnership
with businesses," he admits.
"Under my leadership, that mindset will change."

Preparing to wind up his speech,
Sir Keir says: "The last decade of failed Conservative ideology
and the last year of our collective suffering
demand that we now create a new, more secure future."]

https://news.sky.com/story/uk-covid-...asing-12220472

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No one is interested in what this tory has to say.
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No one is interested in what this tory has to say.

He is Not Conservative.


He has concluded

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He is Not Conservative.


He has concluded
There's some good thinking in there.

A long way to go and detail will be important obviously nearer an election but I like what I've heard.

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