[Ammi]

…I guess other than Harry, the only person that I feel would have been a deserving winner would have been Andrew because he was the one who was in the position to out-Harry, Harry….but Harry had that great tactic of ‘becoming a faithful’ and gaining the trust of so many so that he was able to easily dismiss any suspicions cast his way…he didn’t even have to explain anything that much, because he was just able to brush anything aside that he needed to…when there was only the choice of either him or Jaz and some things were questionable against him but not Jaz, he was still wasn’t the one who was banished…it was a great game play…and Andrew couldn’t really have spelled it out more when he said that he thought Harry had been a Traitor from the beginning…/…an original…why would he say that…he would indicate traitors, yes but why would he indicate who an original was….and Mollie knew that she wasn’t a traitor so if there was one traitor left in, it could only be the one who voted to end the game so that they could take the money…any other vote from them wouldn’t be gameplay at that stage, it wouldn’t make any sense…

…it’s been a good season but often for all of the wrong reasons……I love Jaz but Harry gained so much trust and belief that it became lose/lose for him…and Harry was in a position to be the creator of who was left at the end so it all played out for him…

[UserSince2005]

The way Harry was so shook by Jaz was a joke. He could barely speak to respond to his interrogation. How he won is beyond me. Mollie makes Meryl look smart.

Jaz didn’t play a cowards game. As a faithful he had no knowledge of anything to be able to play hard.
If Jaz had shown his cards too early he would have been murdered.
And if he had brought it up before the round table with Harry then Harry would have come to the banishment with his gang ready to all vote Jaz out.
Jaz played the perfect game.
Unfortunately it was a game rigged against him.

[Ammi]

…Jaz was in a lose/lose position really because Harry had ‘lived a faithful life’ and avoided suspicion…so even when people could have looked at Harry, they didn’t…Harry knew that Jaz had suspected him before so credit to Jaz and how he played it that he managed to stay until the final…

[Swan]

I know people are against Harry winning, which is fine, but he did play the best game over all imo. Jaz was a great faithful, but he lacked a backbone earlier on in the game which i think cost him. People can say the producers wanted Harry to win, but at the end of the day it was him who gained all the trust from the faithfuls. It's up to them to call him out and banish him. They didn't. I feel bad for Mollie, but she was very naive in the end. Her soft spot for Harry cost her.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by jet

Agree with all this. Jaz turned out to be such a coward and Mollie was so gullible. When Jaz went for 'red' at the final 3, she STILL thought Harry wasn't a traitor.
I wanted Andrew to win, but fair play, Harry deserved it, he was brilliant.
Claudia was wonderful....loved it all. Now on to the Australian one...

Jas had to protect himself to get to the end I feel because he was a target for the Traitors for most of the game...its just a shame Mollie didnt listen to him at the end.
It was very good...thoroughly enjoyed it.

...and tonight I am going to start watching the Australian version...

[jones89]

Originally Posted by Swan

I know people are against Harry winning, which is fine, but he did play the best game over all imo. Jaz was a great faithful, but he lacked a backbone earlier on in the game which i think cost him. People can say the producers wanted Harry to win, but at the end of the day it was him who gained all the trust from the faithfuls. It's up to them to call him out and banish him. They didn't. I feel bad for Mollie, but she was very naive in the end. Her soft spot for Harry cost her.

Yeah i agree, Harry deserved to win hands down, not saying that Jaz and Mollie didn’t, Jaz was a pretty good player, but Harry PLAYED them all and got to the end… and i don’t get why people would be mad about Harry winning.. Claudia clearly states if a traitor is left standing at the end then they win.. and Harry was still standing at the end after an amazing game so…

[rusticgal]

....and if Jas was the Traitor...why wouldn't he have ended the game???

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

....and if Jas was the Traitor...why wouldn't he have ended the game???

Harry didnt end the game either though

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Swan

I know people are against Harry winning, which is fine, but he did play the best game over all imo. Jaz was a great faithful, but he lacked a backbone earlier on in the game which i think cost him. People can say the producers wanted Harry to win, but at the end of the day it was him who gained all the trust from the faithfuls. It's up to them to call him out and banish him. They didn't. I feel bad for Mollie, but she was very naive in the end. Her soft spot for Harry cost her.

I thought Harry played a great game, just felt it a bit predictable that he won would have been great had there been a twist and Molly turned on Harry but it was not to be

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Harry didnt end the game either though

Actually Harry tried ending the game after Andrew's banishment, but Jaz wanted to banish again....which would logically mean Jaz was a faithful and that he suspected Harry as a traitor,but Mollie was too naive and silly to put 2 & 2 together.

It was the perfect chance for Jaz & Mollie to win ,but Jaz never had a chance when Mollie was always on Harry's side. Even Claudia let her change her mind when she initially wrote Harry .

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Harry didnt end the game either though

He did after Andrew left....both Harry and Mollie ended the game...but Jas didnt.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Actually Harry tried ending the game after Andrew's banishment, but Jaz wanted to banish again....which would logically mean Jaz was a faithful and that he suspected Harry as a traitor,but Mollie was too naive and silly to put 2 & 2 together.

It was the perfect chance for Jaz & Mollie to win ,but Jaz never had a chance when Mollie was always on Harry's side. Even Claudia let her change her mind when she initially wrote Harry .

Exactly...

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

He did after Andrew left....both Harry and Mollie ended the game...but Jas didnt.

Exactly
This is why for me it makes Jaz the worthy winner that was robbed ( only other person I wouldn't mind winning
would have been Andrew) , and I think Jaz was smart in biding his time . He was a strong decent faithful.

I don't know why people are calling him a coward, he had to be so careful and play tactically otherwise Harry and his cronies would have banished him or even murdered
him. He played it smart by leaving it till the fire pit. Even
when he brought up the conversation about the whole Paul / Harry conversation at the round table ,I thought he did it really well and stayed calm. He played it best by not showing his hand / playing cards ...even Harry was caught off guard and he knew he underestimated him.




Even at the last round table he was thinking ahead in voting Evie,as he knew she had to be sacrificed so he could get further in the game. He had to play along to look like he was on the same page as Harry ,and in the uncloacked reunion he admitted he had to get Harry on his side as he knew how much influence Harry had in the

game and with others. Plus with someone like Mollie in the game ... unfortunately Jaz was always screwed.

He was the first one to have concerns over Paul ,but he knew he couldn't push too hard with that theory,as he knew it would target himself. But overall I think Jaz played a really good game .

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

The way Harry was so shook by Jaz was a joke. He could barely speak to respond to his interrogation. How he won is beyond me. Mollie makes Meryl look smart.

Jaz didn’t play a cowards game. As a faithful he had no knowledge of anything to be able to play hard.
If Jaz had shown his cards too early he would have been murdered.
And if he had brought it up before the round table with Harry then Harry would have come to the banishment with his gang ready to all vote Jaz out.
Jaz played the perfect game.
Unfortunately it was a game rigged against him.

Jaz should've rallied Evie and Andrew to vote Harry out at the top 5.

And at the top 4 Jaz should've sent Harry and Andrew to a tie break, instead of voting with Mollie and Harry.

I wanted Jaz to win the finale, but sadly he played the Gareth Southgate game.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Swan

I know people are against Harry winning, which is fine, but he did play the best game over all imo. Jaz was a great faithful, but he lacked a backbone earlier on in the game which i think cost him. People can say the producers wanted Harry to win, but at the end of the day it was him who gained all the trust from the faithfuls. It's up to them to call him out and banish him. They didn't. I feel bad for Mollie, but she was very naive in the end. Her soft spot for Harry cost her.

Mollie to be brutal was an idiot the entire season.

How she couldn't tell at the top 3 that Jaz was a Faithful is beyond me.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Harry didnt end the game either though

At the top 3 Harry wanted to end the game.

[Nicky91]

this was a fun second series honestly, been binge watching this last few weeks with my dad


i bet Tracey (the clairvoyant) didn't see her getting ''murdered'' coming



Mollie really believed Harry was a faithful



Paul had a enormous ego which became his own downfall (good thing he got a cookie of his own dough, also betrayed by his fellow traitors )


first murder and banishment felt kinda ageist tbh