[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Two 16 year olds were named in the murder of Brianna Ghey just last year

They were named after the court case though? they were referred to as Girl X and Boy Y during the trial as I recall, and it was only after the verdict that the judge ruled their names could be put in the public domain

see

Two teenagers blaming each other for the “frenzied” murder of Brianna Ghey in a Warrington park were “in it together”, jurors have been told before starting their deliberations.

The 16-year-old was stabbed 28 times in her head, neck, chest and back in Linear Park, Culcheth, a village near Warrington, Cheshire, on the afternoon of 11 February this year.

Two teenagers, identified only as girl X and boy Y, have been on trial for her murder for over three weeks and each blames the other for the murder.

A jury at Manchester crown court was warned on Tuesday not to be tempted to “try to find an explanation” for the killing.

In her closing speech, the prosecuting KC Deanna Heer told jurors: “You may find it hard to fathom how two children could behave the way they did. The temptation might be to try and find an explanation for what they did and why. They are only children after all.
“But in a criminal case the prosecution doesn’t have to prove why a crime is committed, only that it has been. In murder cases in particular we sometimes never know why a crime is committed … Don’t be tempted to try and work out what they would do what they did.”

She told the jury they do not have to decide who actually stabbed Brianna in order to find both children guilty of murder.


Heer said they “may well conclude” that the boy inflicted at least some of the stab wounds using a hunting knife he bought for £13.50 on a skiing holiday six weeks before the killing. Brianna’s blood was found on his coat and shoes, as well as on the knife, the court has heard.

Meanwhile, Girl X’s barrister, Richard Pratt KC told the jury: “There’s not even so much as a microscopically observable droplet of blood on Girl X’s jacket or her shoes. There’s not a cell of Girl X’s DNA on anything incriminating in this case.”

But Heer reminded the jury that a forensic scientist, Jane Roughley, had told the court it was “entirely possible that Girl X had stabbed Brianna at least once, either before her blood started to flow or after it had started to flow.”

The prosecutor also suggested that Girl X may have used Y as her “hitman”, reminding them that she had once referred to her co-accused as a Tesco John Wick, a budget version of the assassin played by Keanu Reeves in the Hollywood film franchise. “You may think that’s why she referred to Y in that way, because he was her hitman,” Heer said.

Heer told the jury that the teenagers were the only suspects, adding: “The evidence suggests that they both participated in Brianna’s murder in the following ways: firstly, they both encouraged the other to kill Brianna. Secondly they both contributed to a plan to kill Brianna. Thirdly, they both played a part in carrying out the plan. And fourthly, after they had killed her they both took steps to conceal and cover up their guilt.”

She added: “The evidence suggests from first to last these two defendants were in it together.”

The trial continues.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

They were named after the court case though? .

ah yes you are correct

As i understand it the name could be published by a website/news source outside the UK?

[Beso]

The exact reason why he should be named.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The exact reason why he should be named.

Exactly. The person named is not the one who did it and could be in danger.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Merseyside Police have now deleted their pride post after Turning Point UK pointed out
that they should be spending less time virtue signalling and more time policing.

Britain needs police not cult flag wavers.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Merseyside Police have now deleted their pride post after Turning Point UK pointed out
that they should be spending less time virtue signalling and more time policing.

Britain needs police not cult flag wavers.

Imagine using this thread to peddle your ignorance

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Imagine using this thread to peddle your ignorance

i see you have no problem....

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i see you have no problem....

Whereas you clearly do. Disgusting

[Beso]

Well if this isnt in the public interest to name the killer then I dont think there will ever be one that is!

He can be named when hes 18, right?

[bots]

For all we know, he could be 18 next week

[Ammi]

…this reads to me that there is a ‘loophole’ …a minor can’t be named during a trial but can be named before the trial begins…?…


‘On his arrest, Cornick was detained at Wetherby Young Offenders Institution near Leeds, but due to concerns for his safety he was transferred to HM Prison Hindley near Wigan.[14]

Due to an anomaly in British law, although it was illegal to name or identify Cornick during his trial due to him being a minor, it was legal to name him before the trial began. The tabloid newspaper The Sun named him the day following the murder.’

[bots]

When does the guy appear in court, i bet it's today

[bots]

Starmer was in Southport today and someone shouted "How many more people will die on our streets, prime minister? How many more children?" .... the honeymoon is over

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Starmer was in Southport today and someone shouted "How many more people will die on our streets, prime minister? How many more children?" .... the honeymoon is over

The honeymoon ended yesterday when they went for the easy target to claw back some of the black hole they 'didn't know existed' though it was in the public domain for months, there is only so much its the last governments fault the public will accept

[Beso]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Starmer was in Southport today and someone shouted "How many more people will die on our streets, prime minister? How many more children?" .... the honeymoon is over

I bet he scurried off sharpish, rather than face the public

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I bet he scurried off sharpish, rather than face the public

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[arista]

£183,488 has been collected

Charity to help with funerals

BBC news

[Crimson Dynamo]

Here is Yvette Cooper efefctively blaming knife crime and not the person who did this mass murder and why they did it (and she knows at this point)

interview on ITV is here: https://x.com/ITVNewsPolitics/status...36486883373458


oh and here she is before.......

Spoiler:

chilling

[Beso]

https://youtu.be/qIXOqpBxhN0?si=kfJvh89mLuYkwM8S

[Ray.]

I bet that's the last time he'll ever darken their door

[Beso]

One of todays heroes..


http://youtube.com/post/Ugkxe1jTMY0_...PbyarRfJpBypdd

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by parmnion

One of todays heroes..


http://youtube.com/post/Ugkxe1jTMY0_...PbyarRfJpBypdd

Was he injured?


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[Beso]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Was he injured?


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No, sky news interviewed him, hes going to be haunted by his own thoughts for percieving he didn't do enough for angling time I think after watching it.

[Alf]

Live from Southport

Youtube video

[Alf]

Not sure if Leeds or Southport.

Video says Southport but some are saying it's Leeds