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Old 16-08-2021, 08:21 PM #276
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what biden is saying is valid, however, he is boiling it down to simplistic propaganda. The usa have had years to make sure that things were wound down in a staged manner that didn't create an almighty mess
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I felt he came across as rather callous in his wording.
Very disappointed in him.
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I felt he came across as rather callous in his wording.
Very disappointed in him.
If the Afghan soldiers won’t fight for their own country why should people expect Americans soldiers to fight and die
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NewsnightHD BBC2 last night
spent the whole show 44mins on Afghanistan.

Women and Girls fear their Future.

Of course the Taliban has already stopped Schools and University's
for all Females, they reported.




That one USA Flight Military Plane
of over packed with around 800 Afghan people,
yesterday (Mirror Front Page)
had to take off.
Even though they were hanging on the
outside, of that plane,
Men were dropping thousands of feet to their death.

Something Biden would not speak about.

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we can be critical of the usa for the manner of their exit from the country, but i have to say, the stakes for families were huge, 100's of thousands of local men were equipped to fight and yet they didn't bother. If you value something highly, if your family are at risk, you fight to protect it and the men just didn't do that. They have to take personal responsibility for that.
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we can be critical of the usa for the manner of their exit from the country, but i have to say, the stakes for families were huge, 100's of thousands of local men were equipped to fight and yet they didn't bother. If you value something highly, if your family are at risk, you fight to protect it and the men just didn't do that. They have to take personal responsibility for that.

But why would they Fight
for a Corrupt Afghan Government?
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for a Corrupt Afghan Government?
to protect their woman and children ... this is their families .... if my family were threatened, i would be out protecting them ... most people would
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to protect their woman and children ... this is their families .... if my family were threatened, i would be out protecting them ... most people would

But the Power before the Taliban
was corrupt, they would never trust them.
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no, i think the majority of men in the country are pretty happy with the taliban and that's why they didn't fight
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no, i think the majority of men in the country are pretty happy with the taliban and that's why they didn't fight

Very Possible.
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no, i think the majority of men in the country are pretty happy with the taliban and that's why they didn't fight
I agree with that to an extent, I don’t think all the force were committed to keeping the Taliban out, and then there was an issue with not being paid for some time, plus the abrupt departure of any the Army it created a perfect storm
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