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This survey doesn't illustrate what you think it illustrates.

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This survey doesn't illustrate what you think it illustrates.
“Whatever the Party holds to be the truth, is truth. It is impossible to see reality except by looking through the eyes of the Party.”

— O'Brien (1984 by George Orwell)
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Who made this graph? Because I'm highly suspicious of their personal bias.
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"We currently live in a culture where the punishment for challenging the
ideology is not prison but social censure. Women cannot say what they think at
work if they are in the arts, education, the public sector or much of the media.
Only recently, I was at an artsy do where one person after another sidled up to
say they agreed with me but they just don’t want to say so in public. This
means they continue to prop up a load of nonsense, which is construed by
paternalistic leaders as somehow popular, when it never is."

If any of this was, in the end, about making the lives of the tiny number of
trans people in the UK better I would support it. Instead, it just sharpens the
conflict between women’s rights and trans rights by not even acknowledging
“sex” at all. If this isn’t “stirring up hatred”, I don’t know what is.

It reminds me of what the brilliant Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie said of an
argument with an ex-student: “What matters is not goodness but the
appearance of goodness …We are now angels jostling to out-angel one
another.” No one expects politicians to be angels, we expect them to produce
sensible and workable laws.

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The Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Act was passed three years ago, but it has been delayed as the authorities prepare for what’s to come. It finally takes effect from 1 April.

The law doesn’t just apply to social media posts or newspaper articles. It covers anything said anywhere – even in your own home. Children will in theory be able to report their parents. Scots can inform on each other anonymously, through an expanded network of ‘third-party reporting centres’. The list of centres includes a striking number of university campuses, as well as a Glasgow sex shop and a North Berwick mushroom farm.

Scottish police are bracing for the new workload at a time when there is a general crisis in resources. Earlier this month, Police Scotland announced a new ‘proportional response’ strategy that in effect said they will not investigate what they regard as minor crimes: smashed home windows, for example, or thefts not captured on a security camera and which are therefore hard to solve. It is estimated that this change in approach will lead to 24,000 fewer investigations a year, saving 130,000 police man-hours.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...t-with-danger/
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The Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Act was passed three years ago, but it has been delayed as the authorities prepare for what’s to come. It finally takes effect from 1 April.

The law doesn’t just apply to social media posts or newspaper articles. It covers anything said anywhere – even in your own home. Children will in theory be able to report their parents. Scots can inform on each other anonymously, through an expanded network of ‘third-party reporting centres’. The list of centres includes a striking number of university campuses, as well as a Glasgow sex shop and a North Berwick mushroom farm.

Scottish police are bracing for the new workload at a time when there is a general crisis in resources. Earlier this month, Police Scotland announced a new ‘proportional response’ strategy that in effect said they will not investigate what they regard as minor crimes: smashed home windows, for example, or thefts not captured on a security camera and which are therefore hard to solve. It is estimated that this change in approach will lead to 24,000 fewer investigations a year, saving 130,000 police man-hours.

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**** will I just briefly explain since I don't think you'll know what I'm talking about?

If most "misinformation experts" (either with some sort of qualification or self-declared) fall left-of-centre, then the strong implication is that most of the misinformation falls right of centre, as in a tribalised society people will be unwilling to call out information that roughly falls in line with their own leanings. As there's no meaningful barrier to being a "misinformation expert", if there was as much misinformation to BE called out left-of-centre, there would be a higher proportion of right-of-centre leaning "experts" calling it out.
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Today Scotland
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comes in action.


OK Copper do you worse......................
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Now JK Rolling
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Breaking News - Scotland

It’s being reported that Scotland citizens are now reporting the Scottish 1st Minister
@HumzaYousaf

in huge numbers to the Police.

They are claiming (rightly) that the speech below is categorised as ‘Hate Speech’

https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status...900865945?s=20
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Breaking News - Scotland

It’s being reported that Scotland citizens are now reporting the Scottish 1st Minister
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in huge numbers to the Police.

They are claiming (rightly) that the speech below is categorised as ‘Hate Speech’

https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status...900865945?s=20
The Scottish Police
will have to ignore them.
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He should be saying white Christian...or perhaps he should just **** off.
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[Furious protesters stage rally outside
Scottish Parliament in anger at SNP's
new hate crime laws - as JK Rowling dares
police to arrest her for calling trans women 'men']

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...women-men.html


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One of the unfortunate things I’ve noticed today is people referring to the Hate Crime Act
as ‘the SNP Hate Crime Act’. It’s actually ‘the SNP-Labour-Green-Lib Dem Hate Crime Act’.
Those are the four parties that voted for the legislation. All four deserve credit for their
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[Rishi Sunak backs JK Rowling's right
to free speech as Scotland's hate
crime laws come into force: PM says
'people should not be criminalised for stating
simple facts on biology' after the author dared
police to arrest her for 'misgendering'

JK Rowling wrote on social media that
a string of trans women were men]

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Crazy comments that are being paraphrased.
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Crazy comments that are being paraphrased.

She/He will do anything to get on Live TV

SkyNews & BBC
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Tbh I wish JK would leave India alone - she's not a violent criminal, and she's not trying to take spaces in sports or politics belonging to women.

I don't follow the goss on twitter so maybe India is constantly targeting JK though?
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