[arista]

Sunak PM
now in there.


He starts around 10:30AM

[joeysteele]

He's coming across as being very insincere and evasive.
Rather arrogant in a negative way too.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

He's coming across as being very insincere and evasive.
Rather arrogant in a negative way too.

Very True.

[arista]

[arista]

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...nquiry-cartoon

Fantastic Cartoon on the above link

Guardian blocks you
taking the Image

[arista]

This Cartoon was in 2020
A guest was looking at it.

[bots]

I'm surprised nobody is talking about the fact the SNP had a policy of deleting all messages sent during the pandemic so they couldn't be seen in an inquiry and that Sturgeon was telling everyone to email her on her party email rather than government email so the messages would remain private.

The tories can be criticised a lot, but they were never that bad

[arista]

Yes the SNP get away with it.

[arista]

[Too late, I found it! Astra Zeneca paid him £22,500 for services!]

Yes LT.
No wonder he smiles so much on TV

[arista]

BBC News Text:
[The i has an interview with Dominic Cummings.
The former chief adviser to Boris Johnson
claims to have saved thousands
of lives during Covid,
but says it's "extremely, extremely unlikely"
him and Mr Johnson will ever speak again.]

[Zizu]

Mmmmm

https://youtu.be/rnVTj2Uy9yc?si=E-NAQoEB_1Vt6NWL


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Mmmmm

Youtube video

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[Parmy]

Can some txt be added I cant watch that work.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The complaint centred on a social media post on X by Dr Berkeley Phillips, the medical director of Pfizer UK. He shared a post from an employee of Pfizer in the US which said: “Our vaccine candidate is 95 per cent effective in preventing Covid-19, and 94 per cent effective in people over 65 years old. We will file all of our data with health authorities within days. Thank you to every volunteer in our trial, and to all who are tirelessly fighting this pandemic.”

Four other Pfizer employees, including one “senior” colleague, published the same message

The PMCPA ruling noted that this message contained “limited” information about the vaccine’s efficacy, no safety information and no reference to adverse events.

It went on to say that the social media post resulted in an “unlicensed medicine being proactively disseminated on Twitter to health professions and members of the public in the UK”.

A Pfizer UK spokesman said that the company “fully recognises and accepts the issues highlighted by this PMCPA ruling”, adding that it is “deeply sorry”.

[Parmy]

Thanks LT..at least they are very sorry.

[Alf]

Conspiracy theories from The Telegraph

[Crimson Dynamo]

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Was masking kids ( or anyone ) that bad an idea ?


Same with the six foot rule ?

I honestly felt that I was gonna die .. we saw endless footage of all those people dying in Italy ( I think ) and poorly people in corridors and car parks ..

The guidelines actually helped me through things



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[user104658]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Was masking kids ( or anyone ) that bad an idea ?


Same with the six foot rule ?

It wasn't a "bad" idea, there was no harm in it, it just turned out that it probably didn't really do anything at all. It was thought that Covid was spread by droplets/touch so distancing and face coverings would help, but it wasn't, it was airborne so they didn't really do anything at all. N95 respirator masks would help a bit. Cloth masks/disposable surgical masks, realistically, did nothing at all.

But again there's no harm in it and they were going on the evidence that was available at the time.

[arista]

Yes he made errors in USA

[user104658]

They had to make up rules, it takes months (or years) to effectively study the effectiveness of an intervention on an illness and they (at the time) seemed to believe that they didn't have time to do it so they were just "trying things".

My personal stance is that some of them were fair enough because - really, other than people being whingey babies about it, even if they didn't work AT ALL they weren't actually causing huge issues, e.g. basic social distancing and masks. Like srs. Even if they did nothing at all - so what? Worth a try .

Lockdowns / curfews / restrictions on travel within the country etc... is where it went too far. And "vaccine passports" (again for within the country, restrictions on international travel are a different thing).

Even if I did personally enjoy the world slowing/quietening down a bit for a few months .

It's still the doorstep clapping that bothers me most about the whole thing though. Such a clear illustration of utterly mindless drone behaviour. Creepy as fk. I remember I was once accidentally in Tesco at "clapping time" and they announced it over the speakers and everyone stopped in their tracks and started clapping. And the look on people's faces when I was pointedly not doing it.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

They had to make up rules, it takes months (or years) to effectively study the effectiveness of an intervention on an illness and they (at the time) seemed to believe that they didn't have time to do it so they were just "trying things".

My personal stance is that some of them were fair enough because - really, other than people being whingey babies about it, even if they didn't work AT ALL they weren't actually causing huge issues, e.g. basic social distancing and masks. Like srs. Even if they did nothing at all - so what? Worth a try .

Lockdowns / curfews / restrictions on travel within the country etc... is where it went too far. And "vaccine passports" (again for within the country, restrictions on international travel are a different thing).

Even if I did personally enjoy the world slowing/quietening down a bit for a few months .

It's still the doorstep clapping that bothers me most about the whole thing though. Such a clear illustration of utterly mindless drone behaviour. Creepy as fk. I remember I was once accidentally in Tesco at "clapping time" and they announced it over the speakers and everyone stopped in their tracks and started clapping. And the look on people's faces when I was pointedly not doing it.

Yes Photo from a Great Film

[Parmy]

The clapping wasnt just for the NHS, it was also a coping mechanism for some people that helped them get through it

[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The clapping wasnt just for the NHS, it was also a coping mechanism for some people that helped them get through it

It was ostensibly for the NHS and it was frustrating and offensive to the actual NHS workers who were well aware that they'd be blamed/forgotten/still under-paid once it was all over.

Which is exactly what happened.

So I (still) don't really care if whacking a frying pan with an old wooden spoon was seen as an appropriate coping mechanism by Billy and Betty.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The clapping wasnt just for the NHS, it was also a coping mechanism for some people that helped them get through it

Yes I would agree !!

We live in a lovely quiet cul-de-sac and each Thursday it was the elderly neighbours who were out first and also the noisiest .


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