[Sticks]

Originally Posted by lostalex

So karma killed an 8 y/o boy who wasn't even born when the IRA bombings were happening, and a Chinese university student who has no ties to Boston at all were killed, because of Karma?

well then karma is ****ing stupid.

And yet others still try and give it credence?

With the hat of science on, it has no validity either, things just happen for no reason sometimes, although in this case there was a "reason" i.e the motive of the perpetrator.

Going back to Old Testament times, there was a belief that if something bad happened to you then you must have done something wrong, the book of Job is a refutation of that belief. Moving forward into Jesus' time, this belief persisted, if you did something wrong, you would be visited by calamity. Jesus also refuted this belief which you can read in the first five verses of Luke 13

To be even more precise Karma is intrinsic in Hinduism and so called New Age religions where it is intertwined with the doctrine of reincarnation and the wheel of Samsara.

It seems in modern usage Karma has developed into something more akin to the belief in a cosmic "Just Deserts", something that Woody Allen rubbished in his hit film Crimes and Misdemeanour's

Perhaps it behoves us to actually look to the origins of some popular terms that are utilised in modern parlance to avoid possible misunderstandings.

[Vicky.]

http://www.fbi.gov/news/updates-on-i...-boston/photos

Photos of the two suspects on here.

[SharkAttack]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

http://www.fbi.gov/news/updates-on-i...-boston/photos

Photos of the two suspects on here.

Look like kids in their 20s. Very pixellated, hopefully someone can identify them.

[Vicky.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M80DX...ature=youtu.be

FBI video. Apparently this is on their site too but theirs keeps crashing for me. I guess its getting loads of hits right now.

[Brother Leon]

Youtube video

Spoiler:

[BBfanUSA]

Huh, Odd I think they got it wrong. Niether look like the bag that's been posted on 4Chan. But stuff can burn like wildfire through the internet so fast I don't anything anymore.

Pressure Bombs should be a bit heavy right? then why isn't the second guy carrying his on both shoulders?

[Brother Leon]

Suspect leaving the scene.

Spoiler:

Could be a misleading photo, but he does look the least fussed.

[Z]

Wow

[Drew.]

that guy doesn't really have a shock look on his face like everyone else

[Drew.]

cant tell from that photo if hes carrying the bag tho.. if it was a clear photo it would be the best bit of evidence yet

[The Human Santapede]

One of the most haunting images to come out of the Boston bombings is of a young man in a wheelchair, his legs blown off, being rushed to help by three people, including a man in a cowboy hat.

The young man's name is Jeff Bauman, and he is in a stable condition in hospital.

The cowboy-hat wearing good samaritan is Carlos Arredondo. When the first blast went off Arredondo immediately ran to the site of the blast across the street and vaulted the security fence to get to victims. Video footage shows him among first responders in his distinctive cowboy hat, bending to help the wounded.

Arredondo saw severed limbs, a pool of blood, and a young man in a gray sweatshirt trying to stand. "He had no legs," Arredondo said in a later interview.

A second bomb went off nearby, but Arredondo stayed focused on the young man. "I told him, my name's Carlos, you're going to be OK, help is on the way,'" Arredondo said.

He applied tourniquets which he made by ripping up a sweater. With his friend John Mixon, a Vietnam Veteren, Arredondo put the young man in a wheelchair brought by EMS staff, then started moving as fast as he could while apparently holding shut an artery. "I kept talking to him. I kept saying, 'Stay with me, stay with me,' " Arredondo said. A young woman and police officer joined him pushing the wheelchair close to the ambulances.

The young man was still conscious when he was taken to hospital. "I told him,' You're going to be fine,'" Arredondo says.

Bauman's father told the NY Times that Arredondo had saved his son's life.

Arredondo is known nationally as a peace activist himself after his son, US Marine Corporal Alexander Arredondo, was killed in combat in Iraq in 2004. Arredondo was at the marathon supporting a group running in memory of fallen veterans, including his son.

This is just one of many stories of bravery and compassion that will emerge from the marathon.

http://politix.topix.com/homepage/56...lost-both-legs

[Z]

I can't even begin to imagine losing my legs.

[Drew.]

"and a young man in a gray sweatshirt trying to stand. "He had no legs,"

the poor guy had no idea about his legs at the time

[Z]

The guy's skin is grey in that picture, he must have been in shock

[Drew.]

Yeah.. if thats his right hand on his lap it is insanely white/grey

[Z]

You know, looking at photos like that, it makes you really detest the paparazzi. This man has just lost his legs, his life has been changed forever, a catastrophe has just affected hundreds of innocent people and there's some bloody person with a camera taking pictures of what is likely to be the worst day of your life. I'm a bit disgusted. On the other hand, this photo could go on to become very famous, possibly benefiting the guy who's lost his legs... but he didn't choose to have his photo taken...

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Zee

You know, looking at photos like that, it makes you really detest the paparazzi. This man has just lost his legs, his life has been changed forever, a catastrophe has just affected hundreds of innocent people and there's some bloody person with a camera taking pictures of what is likely to be the worst day of your life. I'm a bit disgusted. On the other hand, this photo could go on to become very famous, possibly benefiting the guy who's lost his legs... but he didn't choose to have his photo taken...

i think the real benefit from the photos is the hope that at least one of them will give evidence into catching whoever did this

[Z]

Originally Posted by Drew.

i think the real benefit from the photos is the hope that at least one of them will give evidence into catching whoever did this

But they would have done that without the photo too. I think photos like that one just feed our desire to see and know everything, even if it's a bit morbid in this instance. It's nothing new, ever since photography was invented, people have been taking photos of things that perhaps the world didn't need to see. There's no doubt that photos like that one make things more 'real' to the rest of the world... you're not going to forget seeing a photo like that one in a hurry - hearing about a guy who ran over to help another guy is one thing, but to see him holding this man's artery shut is on a whole different emotional level.

It's nothing against this specific photo per se, it's more the paparazzi in general. It's kinda grotesque, but having said that, I'm happily looking at these kinds of images too so I guess that's why they're published. People want to see these things, even if they don't think they want to. That's the media's motto.

[The Human Santapede]

Liz Norden, a mom-of-five, got a phone call from one of her sons on April 15, saying that he had been injured in the Boston bombings. She had no idea that both of her sons would end up having one of their legs amputated.

Liz Norden‘s sons had gone to watch a friend run in the Boston Marathon on April 15, and their lives completely changed in an instant.
Two Brothers Each Lose A Leg In Boston Bombings

Liz says that her 31-year-old son called her and said he was in an ambulance on his way to Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center.

“Ma, I’m hurt real bad,” Liz recounts to the Boston Globe. Her sons, which she didn’t want to name, were standing right next to each other during the blast.

Liz tells the Boston Globe that each of her sons lost a leg, from the knee down.

“I’d never imagined in my wildest dreams this would ever happen,” she said. “I feel sick. I think I could pass out.”

She said that she hadn’t seen her sons yet because the authorities weren’t letting visitors in. Liz said they had both been recently laid off from their jobs as roofers.

Their friend Mike Jefferson, who they went to watch run in the marathon, was at the hospital waiting to see his friends.

“I was a quarter-mile away from the finish line [when the bombings happened],” he said.

It turns out the brothers were standing next to the eight-year-old boy, Martin Richard, who was killed in the blast. Keep coming back to HollywoodLife.com for the latest updated on the bombings.

http://hollywoodlife.com/2013/04/16/...ston-bombings/

[The Human Santapede]

Salah Barhoun was forced to deny that he was connected with the Boston bombing after photos were released of him carrying a bag near the finish line of the famous marathon on April 15. The 17-year-old used his Facebook account to declare his innocence!
UPDATE: Boston Marathon Bombing Suspect Photos Released In FBI Press Conference

The picture of the 17-year-old Moroccan high school student, Salah Barhoun, was revealed on April 18, three days after the April 15 Boston explosions that killed three and injured at least 183. It was reported that the man in blue was being sought by the FBI. Since then, he has used his Facebook account to deny any wrongdoing.

Salah Barhoun: Suspect No More?

The brother of the track athlete told ABC News that Salah went to the police on April 17 to clear his name. Their mother was “sick and upset” that Salah had been connected to the horrifying attack.

“It made her think he had done something wrong,” Salah’s brother said. “My brother is not the bomber.”

Salah told ABC News, “It’s the worst feeling that I can possibly feel… I’m only 17.”

Salah reportedly wanted to run in the marathon, but when he couldn’t for unknown reasons, he went to watch the race instead.

After realizing his photo was making the rounds in the media, Salah used Facebook to try and clear his name.

“Going to the court right now!! S*** is real. But u will see guys I’m did not do anything.” Hours later, he wrote, “back home! everything is fake but god is with me.”
FBI Will Release Photos Of Individuals They Want To Question

Later today, the FBI will allegedly release images of individuals they hope to question in connection with the bombings.

There were two explosions at 2:50 pm on April 15, near the finish line of the Boston Marathon. About 183 people were injured and three were killed.

Keep coming back to HollywoodLife.com for the latest in the Boston bombings.

http://hollywoodlife.com/2013/04/18/...chool-student/

[BBfanUSA]

Okay now there's no doubt in my mind those two did it, he doesn't looked fussed at all in the pic (The White capped guy is walking away from the blast on the left.)

[Drew.]

its a strange one.. my instincts in this situation would be to help and the last thing id want to do is start taking photos.. but like you said we're sitting here looking at the photos. I wonder how they feel at the time walking around with people in need of help whilst they are taking pictures. I appreciate the photos in some ways because its given me an idea of what happened and its made me think a lot about things.. you cant really win if your one of the people that took photos at the time.

[Drew.]

i used the word pictures and photos a lot just then.

[Z]

I hate when I think I've used a word too much, like if I use the word 'but' more than once in a sentence, makes me feel dumb. Yeah, like at the end of the day, photographers are employed to do this stuff and they've got to earn their living by doing it, but it just seems a bit sick when you take a step back and think about the context. Carnage going on all around them and they're... taking photos of it.

[Roy Mars III]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/19/us/bos...html?hpt=hp_t1

crazy as hell