[Cherie]

Originally Posted by susie q

Ageism, is equally prevalent in BB. There hasnt been that many House mates over the age of 40 in the normal BBs, and even less in the channel 5 years. Eileen being nominated for her age was ludicrous, especially as she was shaping up to be an entertaining house Yet CBB has a lot of 40 plus who have proved entertaining have gone on to win.

Oh no ageism, sexism. racism and probably every other ism as well It really should be taken off air....all hail the PC brigade

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Yeah damn those sexist female voters not voting for women.

Female on female sexism does exist, is arguably worse than male on female sexism and is certainly more disheartening.

It's all a product of patriarchy though.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Over Nadia?

Would that be Nadia the transexual with the dark skin, portuguese heritage and foreign accent?

Wow, must have been a really racist, sexist and prejudiced audience that voted for her to win.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Ahmed wasn't hated. The jungle cats were loved.

Victor would have won the show if it weren't for the unfortunate incident where he called shell a ****.

You couldn't be more incorrect. I just finished re-watching BB5 a few days ago, not to mention I remember the opinions back in 2004.

The Jungle Cats weren't loved at all. Hence, why Jason and Victor and anyone else who was close to them were booed when they left the house or when Davina mentioned their names during live shows. And why Michelle, Marco, and Nadia were cheered.

Also, it was Shell that called Victor a ****, not the other way round. It was Victor's reaction to it, which got him the boot. Not to mention, how he treated other housemates that night, like Daniel.

And he wouldn't have won. Nadia was a clear fave to win for 6 weeks. Victor probably would've come 2nd - the same way Jason did.

[ItWasJustBanter]

Totally racist season. Marc attacked from start to finish. Sad day.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Would that be Nadia the transexual with the dark skin, portuguese heritage and foreign accent?

She didn't just win for being transexual, she was thoroughly enjoyable to watch.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Female on female sexism does exist, is arguably worse than male on female sexism and is certainly more disheartening.

It's all a product of patriarchy though.

Yes it exists as does male on male,welcome to life!

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Would that be Nadia the transexual with the dark skin, portuguese heritage and foreign accent?

Wow, must have been a really racist, sexist and prejudiced audience that voted for her to win.

no need to be patronising

[Ashley.]

Lmao at 5 people posting at the same time

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by AshRley

Lmao at 5 people posting at the same time

Beats no one posting

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Female on female sexism does exist, is arguably worse than male on female sexism and is certainly more disheartening.

It's all a product of patriarchy though.

Yes of course it is. All men's fault that women are jealous of prettier slimmer women.

There is no sexism. Women just seem to hate other women who are prettier than them and it is women who largely vote on BB.

Imagine a situation where 3 women are up....the slimmest/prettiest one is usually a goner. Not sexism, just jealousy.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Would that be Nadia the transexual with the dark skin, portuguese heritage and foreign accent?

Wow, must have been a really racist, sexist and prejudiced audience that voted for her to win.

Yes, because Portuguese is a race. I think you're mixing up racism with xenophobia.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by AshRley

She didn't just win for being transexual, she was thoroughly enjoyable to watch.

Well done on completely missing my point.

Read the second sentence of my post again.

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by BB6

You couldn't be more incorrect. I just finished re-watching BB5 a few days ago, not to mention I remember the opinions back in 2004.

The Jungle Cats weren't loved at all. Hence, why Jason and Victor and anyone else who was close to them were booed when they left the house or when Davina mentioned their names during live shows. And why Michelle, Marco, and Nadia were cheered.

Also, it was Shell that called Victor a ****, not the other way round. It was Victor's reaction to it, which got him the boot. Not to mention, how he treated other housemates that night, like Daniel.

And he wouldn't have won. Nadia was a clear fave to win for 6 weeks. Victor probably would've come 2nd - the same way Jason did.

Exactly they were loathed

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

She was the biggest character. They always leave in a vote to evict.

that's not even true (that big characters always leave in VTE and that Alison was the biggest character)

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by BB6

Yes, because Portuguese is a race. I think you're mixing up racism with xenophobia.

So you think the same, clearly tolerant, audience that voted a foreign transexual a winner is suddenly going to be all intolerant of black people?

It makes no sense.

And the fact that a black man did win in BB8 says it all. The audience are not racist. They just dislike aggressive women, which is what most of the people in the OP's list are.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Yes of course it is. All men's fault that women are jealous of prettier slimmer women.

There is no sexism. Women just seem to hate other women who are prettier than them and it is women who largely vote on BB.

Imagine a situation where 3 women are up....the slimmest/prettiest one is usually a goner. Not sexism, just jealousy.

[Ashley.]

You can be entertaining and likeable at the same time. If you go in there and start shouting the odds (Marc), then the public are likely to hate you. Quick fix to the issue? Don't be a dick.

So many people on here are like "ah the big characters always go first" yes, because production are ****ing **** at getting the casting right. They think we're only interested in people who are likely to cause drama when that has never been the case. If they put someone in who is a big character but isn't mean, vile and nasty, then the public will save them. The term "big character" is losing its meaning and nowadays, basically just means people who cause unnecessary conflict.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

So you think the same, clearly tolerant, audience that voted a foreign transexual a winner is suddenly going to be all intolerant of black people?

It makes no sense.

And the fact that a black man did win in BB8 says it all. The audience are not racist. They just dislike aggressive women, which is what most of the people in the OP's list are.

The fact that the first and only Asian (Shilpa) and black (Brian) housemates who've won a series of CBB/BB happened to win both the series which aired in 2007 - the year of racial misconduct within BBUK. Coincidence?

"The public don't like aggressive women"

Yes, because that's why Helen Wood was crowned the winner of Big Brother, last year - whilst Deana and Gina (both WOC) happened to loose their win in the last few days, for being nasty - yet the public had no problem crowning Helen as the winner, who'd been nasty throughout her series.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by BB6

You couldn't be more incorrect. I just finished re-watching BB5 a few days ago, not to mention I remember the opinions back in 2004.

The Jungle Cats weren't loved at all. Hence, why Jason and Victor and anyone else who was close to them were booed when they left the house or when Davina mentioned their names during live shows. And why Michelle, Marco, and Nadia were cheered.

Also, it was Shell that called Victor a ****, not the other way round. It was Victor's reaction to it, which got him the boot. Not to mention, how he treated other housemates that night, like Daniel.

And he wouldn't have won. Nadia was a clear fave to win for 6 weeks. Victor probably would've come 2nd - the same way Jason did.

So you think the black guy victor would have come second but the audience is racist?

How does that work?

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

So you think the black guy victor would have come second but the audience is racist?

How does that work?

Why are you calling him "Black Guy Victor"? Like jeez no need to put a label on it.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

So you think the black guy victor would have come second but the audience is racist?

How does that work?

Well frankly. Because Victor was a big character, and up against two quieter characters Dan and Shell in a VTW, so he'd get the Jungle Cat votes.

How do you think both Nadia and Jason made it to the Final 2?

Not to mention, Victor is a man. I thought it was a fact that black women get it far worse than black men.

[Macie Lightfoot]

It's funny how some people are throwing out that all of the black women are AGGRESSIVE and that's why they go. I personally think someone like Marcus Akin is a lot more aggressive, but you never see him get called that.

Also, one black man winning doesn't disqualify the fact that it took twelve years for a black woman to survive a head-to-head eviction

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

It's funny how some people are throwing out that all of the black women are AGGRESSIVE and that's why they go. I personally think someone like Marcus Akin is a lot more aggressive, but you never see him get called that.

Also, one black man winning doesn't disqualify the fact that it took twelve years for a black woman to survive a head-to-head eviction

Exactly.

Or the fact that almost every single black female has either been evicted at the first opportunity, hasn't made it past the halfway mark of their respective series, and booted out to an awful reception.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by BB6

I thought it was a fact that black women get it far worse than black men.

This is true; but I don't think it's down to racism. The black women that get chosen don't represent black women as a whole, they're usually a stereotypical "ratchet ass" (possible lesbian) "don't make me come in there" type woman.