[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

Reports the 19 year did not want to go,
he was scared

[bots]

the simple reality is that once they got the proper robot vehicle in place, it took it less than an hour to identify what had happened. The last few days have been a load of inaccurate speculation

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the simple reality is that once they got the proper robot vehicle in place, it took it less than an hour to identify what had happened. The last few days have been a load of inaccurate speculation

But how long did it take to get the robot sub in place ?

[bots]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

But how long did it take to get the robot sub in place ?

Until yesterday

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Until yesterday

Well it’s only natural that there would be a mixture of hope /fears / and speculation

[thesheriff443]

The biggest lesson that should be learned from this is,
Don’t pressure your kids into doing something they don’t want to do.

[bots]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

The biggest lesson that should be learned from this is,
Don’t pressure your kids into doing something they don’t want to do.

it's all about acceptable risk really, but obviously if you suggest it to your child and they look at you like you are mad and then appear very reluctant, you drop it.

The risk level on that trip was enormous. When it has a waver on death, you have to say ... is this something i really want to subject my son to. 99.9999% of parents wouldn't subject their child to that level of risk

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it's all about acceptable risk really, but obviously if you suggest it to your child and they look at you like you are mad and then appear very reluctant, you drop it.

The risk level on that trip was enormous. When it has a waver on death, you have to say ... is this something i really want to subject my son to. 99.9999% of parents wouldn't subject their child to that level of risk

But there is always one and in this case it cost a young man his life.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

The biggest lesson that should be learned from this is,
Don’t pressure your kids into doing something they don’t want to do.

I agree. Overall I'd say for those who chose to do it ... no it's not something I'd have chosen to do, but many adults have dangerous hobbies (and have died doing them) - caving, base jumping, various other extreme sports - and it's up to the individual if they want to take the risk ...

I don't really see this being all that different to the numerous people who have died trying to climb Everest. Just down instead of up.

But if the above is true about the young lad not wanting to do it and being pressured (excuse the pun) into doing it by his dad then that is truly tragic. You can imagine the rhetoric really. Telling him to man up, stop being a coward, etc. when he was like "We might die". And then they died . I hope there's an afterlife so that he gets to say "I ****ing told you so dad!"

[Livia]

How long did it take to find the Titanic? 70 years? 80? I never thought they'd find them and haven't we heard enough now?

[Livia]

The difference between climbing Everest and travelling to the bottom of the ocean is, thousands of people climb Everest every year. A better comparison would be Jeff Bezos and his incredible flying penis-rocket. Only the very rich can experience it and sometimes they die. Then we have days and days of mourning and lamenting while ordinary people dying hardly makes the news.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

The difference between climbing Everest and travelling to the bottom of the ocean is, thousands of people climb Everest every year. A better comparison would be Jeff Bezos and his incredible flying penis-rocket. Only the very rich can experience it and sometimes they die. Then we have days and days of mourning and lamenting while ordinary people dying hardly makes the news.

I was thinking more the early days of Everest mountaineering-tourism, when it was only the rich doing it and there were regularly incidents and deaths (and lots of deaths prior to anyone making it to the summit at all). These days there's better equipment and they've perfected the process so there are queues up the mountainside during "summit season" .

But very true about space. There will definitely be similar incidents with "space tourism for millionaires".

The above about Everest though, does make me wonder if in 50+ years time there will be regular expeditions to the Titanic and it won't be considered all that risky at all . And maybe some sort of ... space hotel ... or space-Disneyland.

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

The above about Everest though, does make me wonder if in 50+ years time there will be regular expeditions to the Titanic and it won't be considered all that risky at all . And maybe some sort of ... space hotel ... or space-Disneyland.

I didn’t even know you could go to the titanic as a tourist.
Now everyone knows
And in the future is will definitely be a bucket list thing when the equipment and experience is much better
Funny how such a terrible thing will actually be great publicity in the future

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

I didn’t even know you could go to the titanic as a tourist.
Now everyone knows
And in the future is will definitely be a bucket list thing when the equipment and experience is much better
Funny how such a terrible thing will actually be great publicity in the future

Yes. At the moment we don't have the technology yet.

[Livia]

The Titanic will only be there a few more years before is gone forever, 30 years they reckon, before it disintigrates. Plus, it's a grave... Charging rich people to gawp at it doesn't sit well with me.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Livia

The Titanic will only be there a few more years before is gone forever, 30 years they reckon, before it disintigrates. Plus, it's a grave... Charging rich people to gawp at it doesn't sit well with me.

I agree. It's a masa grave and should be left alone.
Let the poor souls rest.

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by Livia

The Titanic will only be there a few more years before is gone forever, 30 years they reckon, before it disintigrates. Plus, it's a grave... Charging rich people to gawp at it doesn't sit well with me.

Concentration camps, 9/11, pearl habour, jfk museum, Hiroshima museum, Ho Chi Minh mausoleum, pinochet museum… I’ve been to the all.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Concentration camps, 9/11, pearl habour, jfk museum, Hiroshima museum, Ho Chi Minh mausoleum, pinochet museum… I’ve been to the all.

I'm sure you believe that.

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm sure you believe that.

I’ll literally post pics from each, you so jealous.

[arista]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Concentration camps, 9/11, pearl habour, jfk museum, Hiroshima museum, Ho Chi Minh mausoleum, pinochet museum… I’ve been to the all.

how nice

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by Livia

The Titanic will only be there a few more years before is gone forever, 30 years they reckon, before it disintigrates. Plus, it's a grave... Charging rich people to gawp at it doesn't sit well with me.

Til the very last piece remains people will go. Infact the less that remains the more people will go because it will be a “last chance” to see thing.

[bots]

I've done some things over the years that when i look back were risky as hell. I think if your mind is set on doing something, it blocks out potential consequences. That doesn't apply to other peoples welfare though and subjecting a family member to unacceptable risk to satisfy your own dream is just a no no

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I've done some things over the years that when i look back were risky as hell. I think if your mind is set on doing something, it blocks out potential consequences. That doesn't apply to other peoples welfare though and subjecting a family member to unacceptable risk to satisfy your own dream is just a no no

But you should always make sure there is a safety procedure in case things go wrong.