[Crimson Dynamo]

Veteran foreign correspondent Michael Buerk has expressed his disapproval of the BBC’s extensive coverage of Liam Payne’s death.

The BBC journalist, 78, known for his landmark 1984 Six O’Clock News bulletin about the famine in Ethiopia that triggered the release of the charity single “Do They Know It’s Christmas”, and Bob Geldof’s 16-hour music marathon Live Aid, described Payne as a “drugged up, faded, boy band singer”.

Speaking on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, Buerk claimed Payne’s death should not have been of such interest to any of the BBC news programmes, including Today and the 10 O’Clock News.

When asked how foreign reporting has changed since his Ethiopia report, the broadcaster said there was “more of an appetite for seriousness” at the height of his career and slammed the channel’s interest in Payne’s death.

“Last week, this programme decided that the most important thing that had happened in the world was that a drugged up faded boy band singer had fallen off a balcony,” he said.

“Even the 10 O’clock News, which is normally good on these things, thought it was the second most important thing that happened in the world.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-b2634872.html

Does he have a point?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Veteran foreign correspondent Michael Buerk has expressed his disapproval of the BBC’s extensive coverage of Liam Payne’s death.

The BBC journalist, 78, known for his landmark 1984 Six O’Clock News bulletin about the famine in Ethiopia that triggered the release of the charity single “Do They Know It’s Christmas”, and Bob Geldof’s 16-hour music marathon Live Aid, described Payne as a “drugged up, faded, boy band singer”.

Speaking on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, Buerk claimed Payne’s death should not have been of such interest to any of the BBC news programmes, including Today and the 10 O’Clock News.

When asked how foreign reporting has changed since his Ethiopia report, the broadcaster said there was “more of an appetite for seriousness” at the height of his career and slammed the channel’s interest in Payne’s death.

“Last week, this programme decided that the most important thing that had happened in the world was that a drugged up faded boy band singer had fallen off a balcony,” he said.

“Even the 10 O’clock News, which is normally good on these things, thought it was the second most important thing that happened in the world.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-b2634872.html

Does he have a point?

Yes even as it went Live as it came to 11PM
GBnewsHD has the great one hour Newspaper Review.
called "headliners"
All the papers ready and printed

I was shocked they stopped that.
with very little updates
non stop Liam images.

No one hour Newspaper Review
that night
on GBnewsHD

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Veteran foreign correspondent Michael Buerk has expressed his disapproval of the BBC’s extensive coverage of Liam Payne’s death.

The BBC journalist, 78, known for his landmark 1984 Six O’Clock News bulletin about the famine in Ethiopia that triggered the release of the charity single “Do They Know It’s Christmas”, and Bob Geldof’s 16-hour music marathon Live Aid, described Payne as a “drugged up, faded, boy band singer”.

Speaking on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, Buerk claimed Payne’s death should not have been of such interest to any of the BBC news programmes, including Today and the 10 O’Clock News.

When asked how foreign reporting has changed since his Ethiopia report, the broadcaster said there was “more of an appetite for seriousness” at the height of his career and slammed the channel’s interest in Payne’s death.

“Last week, this programme decided that the most important thing that had happened in the world was that a drugged up faded boy band singer had fallen off a balcony,” he said.

“Even the 10 O’clock News, which is normally good on these things, thought it was the second most important thing that happened in the world.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-b2634872.html

Does he have a point?

They didn't decide it was the most important thing that had happened in the world, they assessed that it was the thing people were most interested in hearing about.

There's a big difference, as we all well know.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

They didn't decide it was the most important thing that had happened in the world, they assessed that it was the thing people were most interested in hearing about.

There's a big difference, as we all well know.

100%

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Veteran foreign correspondent Michael Buerk has expressed his disapproval of the BBC’s extensive coverage of Liam Payne’s death.

The BBC journalist, 78, known for his landmark 1984 Six O’Clock News bulletin about the famine in Ethiopia that triggered the release of the charity single “Do They Know It’s Christmas”, and Bob Geldof’s 16-hour music marathon Live Aid, described Payne as a “drugged up, faded, boy band singer”.

Speaking on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, Buerk claimed Payne’s death should not have been of such interest to any of the BBC news programmes, including Today and the 10 O’Clock News.

When asked how foreign reporting has changed since his Ethiopia report, the broadcaster said there was “more of an appetite for seriousness” at the height of his career and slammed the channel’s interest in Payne’s death.

“Last week, this programme decided that the most important thing that had happened in the world was that a drugged up faded boy band singer had fallen off a balcony,” he said.

“Even the 10 O’clock News, which is normally good on these things, thought it was the second most important thing that happened in the world.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-b2634872.html

Does he have a point?

He described him perfectly

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Veteran foreign correspondent Michael Buerk has expressed his disapproval of the BBC’s extensive coverage of Liam Payne’s death.

The BBC journalist, 78, known for his landmark 1984 Six O’Clock News bulletin about the famine in Ethiopia that triggered the release of the charity single “Do They Know It’s Christmas”, and Bob Geldof’s 16-hour music marathon Live Aid, described Payne as a “drugged up, faded, boy band singer”.

Speaking on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, Buerk claimed Payne’s death should not have been of such interest to any of the BBC news programmes, including Today and the 10 O’Clock News.

When asked how foreign reporting has changed since his Ethiopia report, the broadcaster said there was “more of an appetite for seriousness” at the height of his career and slammed the channel’s interest in Payne’s death.

“Last week, this programme decided that the most important thing that had happened in the world was that a drugged up faded boy band singer had fallen off a balcony,” he said.

“Even the 10 O’clock News, which is normally good on these things, thought it was the second most important thing that happened in the world.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-b2634872.html

Does he have a point?

Michael's Surname is very apt here imo.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

One Direction singer Liam Payne wrote a note to his girlfriend shortly before his death, predicting they would get married within a year, she has revealed.
Kate Cassidy posted a new tribute to him on Wednesday, a week after his death in a fall from a balcony in Argentina at the age of 31.
"A few weeks ago, we sat outside on a beautiful evening manifesting our lives together," she wrote on Instagram.
"I keep your note close, even though you told me not to look at it. It said, 'Me and Kate to marry within a year/engaged & together forever'."
She also posted a series of photos, including one of his handwritten note.
She added: "Liam, I know we'll be together forever, but not in the way we had planned. You'll always be with me. I've gained a guardian angel.
"I will love you for the rest of my life and beyond, carrying our dreams and memories with me everywhere I go. Forever yours, Katelyn."
Payne had been in a relationship with the US influencer since 2022, and she had been with him in South America in the days before he died.
But when Payne fell to his death on 16 October, Cassidy had already left the country.
'The love of my life'
She started her Instagram message: "I don't even know where to begin. My heart is shattered in ways I can't put into words.
"I wish you could see the huge impact you've had on the world, even as it feels so dark right now. You brought so much happiness and positivity to everyone - millions of fans, your family, friends, and especially me. You are so incredibly loved.
"You are - because I can't say were - my best friend, the love of my life, and everyone you touched felt just as special as I did. Your energy was contagious, lighting up every room you walked into."
She continued: "None of this feels real, and I can't wrap my head around this new reality of not having you here. I'm struggling to figure out how to live in a world without you by my side. Together, we got to be kids again, always finding joy in the smallest things.
"Liam, you had the kindest soul and the most fun-loving spirit. It feels like I've lost the best part of myself. I can't imagine a day without your laughter and love. You brought so much light into my life."
Payne's sudden death led to an outpouring of grief from his family, friends and fans around the world.
His father Geoff is now in the Argentine capital Buenos Aires, and authorities are carrying out tests before allowing his body to be returned to the UK.
They are also reviewing phone, computer and security camera evidence to establish the full circumstances of his death.


But then paid for sex the minute she left

Who said he had paid for sex,seriously not heard that or is it media fodder ?

[Kate!]

No he's an old curmudgeon with no compassion. Would have thought better of him.

[bots]

the news has become a soap opera. I switched on bbc when news of the israel strike came in and they were showing some mundane topic that no-one gave a crap about

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bots

the news has become a soap opera. I switched on bbc when news of the israel strike came in and they were showing some mundane topic that no-one gave a crap about

The rise of doom-scrolling sadly means that bombs and missile strikes are mundane topics that no one realistically gives a crap about. People are blown to bits every day. Well-known celebrities - young ones, anyway - don't die all that often.

It may not be bigger news but it's certainly less humdrum.

Unfortunately.

[Cherie]

Liam Payne’s first posthumous release will arrive this Friday, less than two weeks after the former One Direction star died suddenly aged 31.

The track, titled “Do No Wrong”, was a collaboration between Payne and Grammy-winning producer Sam Pounds.

Pounds announced the forthcoming release on social media, calling it a tribute to the late singer’s spirit as he shared a message to Payne’s family and fans.



https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainm...f23da900&ei=17


popping this in here rather than the Tribute thread, feels like tasteless cashing in to me rather than a tribute but what do I know

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Liam Payne’s first posthumous release will arrive this Friday, less than two weeks after the former One Direction star died suddenly aged 31.

The track, titled “Do No Wrong”, was a collaboration between Payne and Grammy-winning producer Sam Pounds.

Pounds announced the forthcoming release on social media, calling it a tribute to the late singer’s spirit as he shared a message to Payne’s family and fans.



https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainm...f23da900&ei=17


popping this in here rather than the Tribute thread, feels like tasteless cashing in to me rather than a tribute but what do I know

They could maybe do this for charity?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

They could maybe do this for charity?

Maybe not mentioned in the article though, says its a tribute to Liam and his fans

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Liam Payne’s first posthumous release will arrive this Friday, less than two weeks after the former One Direction star died suddenly aged 31.

The track, titled “Do No Wrong”, was a collaboration between Payne and Grammy-winning producer Sam Pounds.

Pounds announced the forthcoming release on social media, calling it a tribute to the late singer’s spirit as he shared a message to Payne’s family and fans.



https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainm...f23da900&ei=17


popping this in here rather than the Tribute thread, feels like tasteless cashing in to me rather than a tribute but what do I know

I don't think the idea is totally horrendous but I think it's far too soon for something like this - probably better left for something like a year.

Especially given the circumstances aren't even known re: was it mental health related, suicide, an "accident" (I say in quotes because I strongly suspect it was an accidental death, but I wouldn't call it random, it was effectively caused by him being heavily under the influence of various substances).

On that note.

I have (unfortunately, wish I hadn't) seen the full uncensored pictures of the aftermath/body, which are very much out there on the internet. Having seen them I am at this point 99% sure he didn't commit suicide. He's wearing a bag over his shoulder and also there's what appears to be a piece of railing or similar in his hand... I honestly think he was trying to climb over for whatever reason (very drunk/high/wasted) and whatever he was holding onto has snapped off in his hand.

Ultimately though I don't think it's any different to, say, a drugs overdose. Cause of death was (rather clearly, unfortunately) head injury from the fall, but really the cause is the state he was in at the time.

If it's any "comfort" to anyone - it looks like he would have died "on impact" and probably had no time to even know what was happening.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

I don't think the idea is totally horrendous but I think it's far too soon for something like this - probably better left for something like a year.

Especially given the circumstances aren't even known re: was it mental health related, suicide, an "accident" (I say in quotes because I strongly suspect it was an accidental death, but I wouldn't call it random, it was effectively caused by him being heavily under the influence of various substances).

On that note.

I have (unfortunately, wish I hadn't) seen the full uncensored pictures of the aftermath/body, which are very much out there on the internet. Having seen them I am at this point 99% sure he didn't commit suicide. He's wearing a bag over his shoulder and also there's what appears to be a piece of railing or similar in his hand... I honestly think he was trying to climb over for whatever reason (very drunk/high/wasted) and whatever he was holding onto has snapped off in his hand.

Ultimately though I don't think it's any different to, say, a drugs overdose. Cause of death was (rather clearly, unfortunately) head injury from the fall, but really the cause is the state he was in at the time.

If it's any "comfort" to anyone - it looks like he would have died "on impact" and probably had no time to even know what was happening.

oh that is a grim read


Today I’m deciding to hold “ Do No Wrong” and leave those liberties up to all family members. I want all proceeds go to a charity of their choosing (or however they desire). Even though we all love the song it’s not the time yet. We are all still mourning the passing of Liam and I want the family to morn in peace and in prayer. We will all wait. With love Sam Pounds.


He decided to postpone due to family concerns...the right decision

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Liam Payne’s first posthumous release will arrive this Friday, less than two weeks after the former One Direction star died suddenly aged 31.

The track, titled “Do No Wrong”, was a collaboration between Payne and Grammy-winning producer Sam Pounds.

Pounds announced the forthcoming release on social media, calling it a tribute to the late singer’s spirit as he shared a message to Payne’s family and fans.



https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainm...f23da900&ei=17


popping this in here rather than the Tribute thread, feels like tasteless cashing in to me rather than a tribute but what do I know

Very tasteless cash grab considering he was dropped

[Crimson Dynamo]

I never watch carefully curated agenda-driven news such as the BBC

hideous

[Kate!]

Yeah, it's not a cash grab if you can be bothered to read it properly, or stop just hearing what you want to hear? It has been postponed and will be for charity.

[Glenn.]

But it was originally though right until everyone said how tasteless it was.

His record company didn’t think he was good enough to continue with him so thought they could cash in

[Glenn.]

CCTV has apparently confirmed that he didn’t commit suicide. Hasn’t been released but it seems that he was so out of his face he fainted and fell.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

CCTV has apparently confirmed that he didn’t commit suicide. Hasn’t been released but it seems that he was so out of his face he fainted and fell.

That would marry up with him also falling over in the lobby, what I dont understand is how he was left alone, I thought he had people with him ...someone apologised for him in the lobby to a guest...poor guy a very sad ending for his family to now deal with

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

That would marry up with him also falling over in the lobby, what I dont understand is how he was left alone, I thought he had people with him ...someone apologised for him in the lobby to a guest...poor guy a very sad ending for his family to now deal with

I imagine he would have security with him but if he didn't want them actually in his room they wouldn't be able to insist. "Fainted" I suspect is a generous way of putting it, let's face it, he passed out from a combination of substances. From the sound of the emergency services call that's been leaked, staff were extremely worried before anything happened, specifically that he's gone to his room and that the room "has a balcony" ... from which I'd say safe to assume, he was falling over/passing out all over the lobby before heading up to the room.

It's an odd/poetic end given that he spoke years ago about developing a bad relationship with alcohol early in their touring career, specifically because of being "locked in a hotel room all evening with a mini bar".

[bots]

there really isn't money in releasing a single for whatever reason any more. Performers only make their money from live performance. The days of a single being released for charity etc are long gone

[UserSince2005]

I think he commited suicide hes talked too much about wanting to die for it to just be an accident.

[Glenn.]

He was still so high he fell off a balcony though…

I’m glad the ones that supplied the drugs are facing charges but let’s face it, he was a 31yr man, with his own mind. He chose to take the drugs.