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Old 14-12-2021, 07:33 PM #326
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I read that lateral flow tests are less reliable than a toss of a coin ..

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How is that gonna help the fight to suppress Omicron ??


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i think its very rare for a LF test to show a false positive, so its not exactly a toss of a coin. With vaccination, a person could be infected, but not enough to trigger a positive test (low viral load), which would mean they wouldnt be infectious either, so the tests are very useful
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How is that gonna help the fight to suppress Omicron ??


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there are no reasons to have border restrictions when an infection is already in the majority in the county. Its only useful right at the very start, and even that is highly debatable

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All that means is that nearly 400 MPs think it's perfectly fine and logical to sack 60,000+ NHS staff.

Get ready for a real pandemic.

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You need hospital treatment? Fook you, we ain't got the staff. You can just suffer or die instead.
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Those 60,000+ NHS staff may as well quit now in the middle of winter, I'm sure many of them will. Why wait until April? Just leave now and find other employment.
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Certification Of Vaccination Identification


Objective reached
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When did I call vaccine passports a conspiracy theory?
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So a South African GP just said on Sky News that Omicron has 30+ mutations yet we’re being told it has 50+ mutations .


Quite a difference


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with over 100 tory mp's voting against further restrictions last night, Boris has basically been warned that they wont accept any more. If he tries to impose further restrictions next week, I can see him being removed as leader
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Schools are apparently planning contingencies fir the need to return to home learning in January.
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Schools are apparently planning contingencies fir the need to return to home learning in January.

Staff absences due to Covid meant our year 9 pupils were all working from home yesterday ( they probably didn’t ) ... today it’s year 10 students working at home ( they probably won’t ) .


They will all be set work via Google Classroom but there will be no LIVE teaching as there simply isn’t enough staff to monitor them so they will basically having a jolly apart from the minority.


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with over 100 tory mp's voting against further restrictions last night, Boris has basically been warned that they wont accept any more. If he tries to impose further restrictions next week, I can see him being removed as leader

If he does bring in any New Measures
they will recall Parliament.
Grant Shapps MP confirmed.
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Schools are apparently planning contingencies fir the need to return to home learning in January.

To be fair that doesn’t mean it will happen or is even a strong possibility - they just don’t want to be caught unprepared if it was to happen.
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Schools are apparently planning contingencies fir the need to return to home learning in January.
Schools around here are finishing for Christmas early on Friday and “learning from home” for the final few days next week (not that any kids are going to do any work on a week off right before Christmas).

All in the hope an extra few days out of the classroom/school environment can help suppress cases.

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full list of netherlands covid restrictions as of december 14th

Measures and urgent advice
Everyone in the Netherlands must stay at home as much as possible. And limit their contacts if they do leave the house
Keep 1.5 meters apart from others wherever you go.
Do not receive more than 4 people aged 13 or older per day at home. Do not visit more than one household per day.
If you visit others, do a Covid-19 self-test first
People aged 70 and older are urged to limit their contacts as much as possible, including with children. And keep 1.5 meters away from anyone they do have contact with.
Everyone aged 13 and older must wear a mask in and around public transport, walking around school, or in public indoor spaces like shops, museums, and the catering industry.
Coronavirus access passes remain required for everyone aged 13 and up entering hospitality businesses, cinemas, theaters, concert halls, museums, historical monuments, casinos, event locations, trade fairs, and conferences. Fixed seats and social distancing also apply here.
All locations and events must close from 5 p.m. to 5 a.m.
Essential stores, like supermarkets and drugstores, can remain open until 8 p.m.
Specific services like the notary or lawyer, mortgage advisor, and medical contact professions can have normal opening hours.
Amateur sports matches and practices are banned from 5 p.m. to 5 a.m.
Elite athletes are not forbidden to compete and train from 5 p.m. to 5 a.m. without an audience.
Professionals in arts and culture are allowed to rehearse from 5 p.m. to 5 a.m. without an audience.
At transfer locations, a maximum of 1 visitor per 5m2 applies
In higher education, a maximum group size of 75 people at 1.5 meters apart applies
In theaters and concert halls, the maximum group size is 1,250 at 1.5 meters apart
Work from home unless absolutely impossible. If you have to go to work, stay 1.5 meters away from others.

Previous measures that remain in effect
Coronavirus access passes are required for those 18 and up entering indoor sports facilities, sports club canteens, and arts and culture rehearsal facilities, practice halls, and workshops.
Face masks are required at indoor public locations wherever coronavirus passes are not required.
Maintaining 1.5 meters of distance is required wherever coronavirus passes are not required.
Fixed assigned seats are required for all hospitality business customers.
Audiences are not allowed to attend professional sports competitions.
People are strongly advised to enter quarantine if a housemate tests positive for the coronavirus infection. This includes vaccinated and unvaccinated housemates.
Face masks should be worn by primary school students in Groups Six, Seven, and Eight when they are not in the classroom.
Face masks should be worn by all secondary school students when they are not in the classroom.
Children under 12 years of age cannot go to school if they have a mild cold, runny nose, or stuffed nose. They must stay home until they have been symptom-free for 24 hours, or until they test negative at a GGD test location.
Children under the age of 12 should be kept separate from those over 70 years of age.
Household guests should take a coronavirus self-test beforehand.

https://nltimes.nl/2021/12/14/rutte-...xtend-lockdown

Rutte: can't ignore covid omicron variant, must close schools, extend lockdown

The Cabinet confirmed its decision to close primary schools one week before the winter vacation, and extend the evening lockdown by one month. Additionally, after school care must also close from Friday, but will be allowed to reopen during the holiday period. That should mean that the childcare centers can reopen from December 27, and schools reopen on January 10.

Prime Minister Mark Rutte called the it a “setback,” but said it should not come as a surprise. He and Health Minister Hugo de Jonge said the decision was largely made out of concern for the Omicron variant of the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus. Rutte said that it appeared as if the Netherlands has gone beyond the peak of the current coronavirus wave, but the number of infections is still high, over 300 new Covid-19 patients are still admitted to hospitals daily, and the hospitals still have a high number of Covid-19 patients in active treatment.

At the same time, concern over the Omicron variant led De Jonge to announce an ambitious and rapid scaling up of the Covid-19 booster shot campaign. The Netherlands was among the last in the European Union to start with boosters, and the country sits near the bottom for boosters given, even as it reached 1 million jabs last week. As of today, everyone over 60 is now able to make an appointment for a booster. The goal is to expand that to all residents over 45 by the end of next week, and all adults by mid-January. The booster jab can be administered to anyone who received their last vaccine dose at least three months ago, instead of six.

"Worrying does not help combat the virus. Vaccination does. If you have not yet been vaccinated, the Omicron variant is the reason to rethink vaccination,” De Jonge said.
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[If you visit others, do a Covid-19 self-test first]


Yes thats good.
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Those 60,000+ NHS staff may as well quit now in the middle of winter, I'm sure many of them will. Why wait until April? Just leave now and find other employment.

No, many are now getting the Jabs
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