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Old 11-03-2023, 08:03 AM #1
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what it comes down to is simple. When BBC employees express their own political opinions, the licence payer says that person does not represent me, so why should i pay a licence fee. We have no choice but to pay, so lineker should have no choice but to shut up.

Why should lineker have the choice to express whatever political view he likes while being employed by the bbc, but i do not have the choice to not pay the tv licence

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what it comes down to is simple. When BBC employees express their own political opinions, the licence payer says that person does not represent me, so why should i pay a licence fee. We have no choice but to pay, so lineker should have no choice but to shut up.

Why should lineker have the choice to express whatever political view he likes while being employed by the bbc, but i do not have the choice to not pay the tv licence
I never get this argument.

Just because you pay a TV Licence, doesn't mean that people can't express differing viewpoints who work for the Channel.

I mean if we go with this argument then nobody would be allowed to work at the BBC, because they're all gonna express an opinion that at least one viewer isn't going to like, especially when it comes to topics like Politics.
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I never get this argument.

Just because you pay a TV Licence, doesn't mean that people can't express differing viewpoints who work for the Channel.

I mean if we go with this argument then nobody would be allowed to work at the BBC, because they're all gonna express an opinion that at least one viewer isn't going to like, especially when it comes to topics like Politics.
i am forced in law to pay a tv licence, if i had a choice to pay or not, then employees of the bbc can say whatever they like and i can choose if i want to pay knowing that. While we are all forced in law to pay for it, bbc employees can keep their political opinions to themselves. The fact you don't care means, with respect, you arent paying for the licence

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Apparently all the match commentators have downed tools too, so that should make watching the matches entertaining

I think we could actually be watching the end of the bbc. They cant continue to force people to pay for something that they fundamentally disagree with
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The big difference being.
Bruce is a firm Con supporter so easing the pressure or defending anyone connected to the Cons will likely be overlooked and tolerated.
Even ON a political programme being broadcasted


Lineker was highlighting his dismay AT a Con and her hateful divisive rhetoric.
So him being critical of the Cons and not defending them.

He gets the action against him while Bruce gets supported and protected as usual.
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The big difference being.
Bruce is a firm Con supporter so easing the pressure or defending anyone connected to the Cons will likely be overlooked and tolerated.
Even ON a political programme being broadcasted


Lineker was highlighting his dismay AT a Con and her hateful divisive rhetoric.
So him being critical of the Cons and not defending them.

He gets the action against him while Bruce gets supported and protected as usual.
And of course there was Andrew Neil as chairman of The Spectator the entire time he worked for the BBC

BBC seem to have singled Lineker out I wonder why.
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And of course there was Andrew Neil as chairman of The Spectator the entire time he worked for the BBC

BBC seem to have singled Lineker out I wonder why.
Because he accused the government of using language the Nazis used in the 30s, showing his deep and profound ignorance of Germany in the 30s.

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Because he accused the government of using language the Nazis used in the 30s, showing his deep and profound ignorance of Germany in the 30s.
You're saying they suspended him for his lack of knowledge? Doesn't seem like a very good reason
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So no Beeb Live Score program this afternoon !!

This is dangerous as millions will get to see that the SkySports and the BT Sports programs are a better alternative !!


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So Gary's overpaid, inarticulate colleagues won't be appearing on Match of the Day. Who watches Match of the Day? People who can't afford Sky. So who are they hurting? Sack all the bloody commentators, they ruin a match anyway. Let's just see the football with no overpaid, over-confident ex-footballers with a tenuous grasp on the English language.
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So Gary's overpaid, inarticulate colleagues won't be appearing on Match of the Day. Who watches Match of the Day? People who can't afford Sky. So who are they hurting? Sack all the bloody commentators, they ruin a match anyway. Let's just see the football with no overpaid, over-confident ex-footballers with a tenuous grasp on the English language.

That’s what they’re planning on doing .. although I rather like having a commentary.. unless it’s Alex Scott or someone not identifying as male


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What I hate about commentators is the twaddle they speak. If it's Man U or C, or one of the big Arab-funded clubs who can buy all the top players and they get the ball you can almost imagine the commentary team stroking their own genitals. Maybe I'm bitter because I'm a West Ham fan... in fact, that's definitely it.
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What I hate about commentators is the twaddle they speak. If it's Man U or C, or one of the big Arab-funded clubs who can buy all the top players and they get the ball you can almost imagine the commentary team stroking their own genitals. Maybe I'm bitter because I'm a West Ham fan... in fact, that's definitely it.

The thing that grinds my gears is when an ex player says “that was such a ‘delicious’ pass “ instead of what they’d normally say .. “ good ball ! “


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Gary Linekar is being victimised by a government that is hellbent on destroying the right to descent, they’ve already criminalised protest, they’re trying to make striking illegal and now they’re using their friends in high places to assert their power over people who publicly speak against them, they’re angry about being compared to fascists, but they prove time and time again, that they’re willing to act like fascists if and when it suits them
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This is all a rather convenient debacle for the tories though, the party that wants to get rid of the bbc all together, pushing for action to be taken they know will highlight the ridiculousness of having paid bad actors at the helm of the organisation, so they can then blame the actual bbc itself rather than the people they’ve placed there to cause the downfall, it’s political chess
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I remember when Sky got rid of Le Tissier, Charlie Nicholas etc. People on here were up in arms but apparently its different for MOTD. I get it. I see it now.
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I remember when Sky got rid of Le Tissier, Charlie Nicholas etc. People on here were up in arms but apparently its different for MOTD. I get it. I see it now.

Big mistake to get rid of those guys.. wasn’t Phil Thompson one who got axed as well !?


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He was. The shows awful now but people on here think MOTD will be better without Lineker. I doubt it will be.
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He was. The shows awful now but people on here think MOTD will be better without Lineker. I doubt it will be.

The idea of having three of the best scoring centre forwards together as a team of pundits is genius to be honest

At least WE know that they know what they are talking about when they give comments .

I have no idea at all how good or how much these female ex players know about football and so I don’t really care what they are saying .

I recall Alex Scott being on a World Cup panel with some great ex players … including Ruud Gullit and Henrik Larsson

The host specifically asked Larsson ( a fabulous goal scorer ) his thoughts on why some easy chances had been missed but before he could utter a single syllable… Alex Scott ( an ex defender ) jumped in and answered his question and she hasn’t stopped talking since - we never got to hear Henrik’s view on things


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I agree that the BBC has not been consistent in its implementation of impartiality rules, but that doesn't give lineker a free pass. This highlights how unhappy people are with the BBC from all sides of politics and the main reason for that is the mandatory licence fee. Thats what the real issue is. Hopefully it will now be resolved

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