[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Those who refuse the vaccine should be made to isolate but those who have followed the rules and are now protecting themselves and others by being vaccinated should be able to regain their freedom.

the discrimination in this post

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

the discrimination in this post

What discrimination is that Nicky?

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

What discrimination is that Nicky?

something i already saw coming, that the vaccinated ones have freedom, and those who aren't vaccinated get discriminated upon

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

something i already saw coming, that the vaccinated ones have freedom, and those who aren't vaccinated get discriminated upon

It's not discrimination, its reality. There is no mandate to make people take the vaccines as it must be personal choice but for those that do there must be some return to the freedoms we used to have.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

It's not discrimination, its reality. There is no mandate to make people take the vaccines as it must be personal choice but for those that do there must be some return to the freedoms we used to have.

i don't care, i never socialize normally either

lockdown life is normal life for me

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i don't care, i never socialize normally either

lockdown life is normal life for me

And that's fine for you then....but for other people who need to see family and friends after a year long forced isolation it's not fine. They have made the decision to have the vaccine to protect themselves and others so there has to be some trade off.

[Vicky.]

I don't really see an issue in the unvaccinated having freedom too, given the huge majority of them now will be younger fitter people overall, who were quite likely to suffer asymptomatic infection in the first place? And if they spread it to 'the formerly vulnerable'...again it doesnt matter much as those people are now protected? Might be missing something like. But infections..in the UK anyway, are surely not really any concern. Just keep an eye on hospital numbers. Thats what matters now.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

7.296 new cases

276 new hospitalisations (2.330 in total)

48 new ICU patients (705 in total)

17 new deaths

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I don't really see an issue in the unvaccinated having freedom too, given the huge majority of them now will be younger fitter people overall, who were quite likely to suffer asymptomatic infection in the first place? And if they spread it to 'the formerly vulnerable'...again it doesnt matter much as those people are now protected? Might be missing something like. But infections..in the UK anyway, are surely not really any concern. Just keep an eye on hospital numbers. Thats what matters now.

My fears is the young folk spreading the new variants around as we simply have no idea how that scenario plays out for us all


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[arista]

Mondays Briefing
is due to have the Traffic Light Travel system
to happen soon, for Travel.

Ref: Times Radio DAB

[user104658]

Even ol' Whitty is these days conceding that Covid is here to stay and the best we can do is bolster our defences against it (with vaccine programmes, other medical treatments and countermeasures, etc.) and essentially accept that it's a new disease we need to live with.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Even ol' Whitty is these days conceding that Covid is here to stay and the best we can do is bolster our defences against it (with vaccine programmes, other medical treatments and countermeasures, etc.) and essentially accept that it's a new disease we need to live with.

He has been saying that for months at the briefings, its only finally made its way to the front page news

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

He has been saying that for months at the briefings, its only finally made its way to the front page news

I guess what has to be accepted is that there is no "next step" - vaccines are the endgame, they are currently the best we can do to tackle a virus, there is no "what next if that doesn't end it"... there is no "next". This is what we were waiting for. Hopefully it will be highly effective in bringing hospitalisations and deaths down to very low levels, permanently. But that's it really, one way or another we have to keep the world spinning .

Plus it's only like 50 years until the whole planet ends 'cos of overfishing anyway so does it even matter that much #seaspiracy.

[arista]

Friday 2/4/21

Today 52 have died
3,402 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
3,723

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
517


126,816 Total Deaths UK


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

Friday 26/3/21

Today 70 have died

6,187 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
4,852


Patients on ventilation
Latest available
630

Originally Posted by arista

Friday 2/4/21

Today 52 have died
3,402 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
3,723

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
517

Deaths
70 > 52 (down 26%)

Positive tests
6187 > 3402 (down 45%)

In hospital
4852 > 3723 (down 23%)

On ventilator
630 > 517 (down 18%)

[user104658]

In b4 Cherie and I did some comparative stats because I'm just better

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: have halted using AZ vaccine under 60's until wednesday at least

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Netherlands: have halted using AZ vaccine under 60's until wednesday at least

Netherlands use of AZ on under 60's
Down 100%

Some more stats

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

In b4 Cherie and I did some comparative stats because I'm just better

thank you, I would have no clue how to do that

[bots]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

In b4 Cherie and I did some comparative stats because I'm just better

630 is not < 517

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Deaths
70 > 52 (down 26%)

Positive tests
6187 > 3402 (down 45%)

In hospital
4852 > 3723 (down 23%)

On ventilator
630 < 517 (down 18%)

Thanks TS
Easier to get my head round it now.

[Nicky91]

UK will get to its third wave next year then, when all of those vaccines have worn off, so don't be too smug pls

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

UK will get to its third wave next year then, when all of those vaccines have worn off, so don't be too smug pls

I don't think anyone is smug, just relieved numbers are falling 3 weeks after schools went back, and the vaccines appear to be working

[bots]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

UK will get to its third wave next year then, when all of those vaccines have worn off, so don't be too smug pls

it's not a competition with other countries Nicky, its a fight against the virus. The world is not safe from covid until every country takes vaccination seriously. The EU have shown themselves to be totally incompetent so far, and they need to improve very quickly

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it's not a competition with other countries Nicky, its a fight against the virus. The world is not safe from covid until every country takes vaccination seriously. The EU have shown themselves to be totally incompetent so far, and they need to improve very quickly

no, the EU has done well


corona will be here for 10 or more years, that is just a fact and we cannot change that