[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Zippy

So obviously its gonna spark new interest in her music. Especially since people realise thats all the music we will ever get from her now. *sob*

I doubt that very much.

When musicians die, all of a sudden they have loads of unreleased stuff dying to come out and make the management more money. Look at tupac. Still releasing songs.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I doubt that very much.

When musicians die, all of a sudden they have loads of unreleased stuff dying to come out and make the management more money. Look at tupac. Still releasing songs.

Incredibly good point Vicky.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I doubt that very much.

When musicians die, all of a sudden they have loads of unreleased stuff dying to come out and make the management more money. Look at tupac. Still releasing songs.

well thats true. But us fans know we aint gonna be getting anything new. Re-packaged or re-produced music of old is all well and good but not the same as fresh material at all. All this Michael Jackson stuff coming out is not even good enough to do him justice imo.

But yeah, thats all about making money for the businessmen.

[tmi]

I would like to ask a few questions,


If you are addicted to food, does that mean it is a disease?

f you are addicted to booze , does that mean it is a disease?

If Your addicted to drugs , does that mean it is a disease.


If someone has cancer is that a disease?


Tbh I cannot comprehend that addictions are diseases.

People are not addicts from birth, unless they're mother was using while carrying.


People choose to be an addict you cant choose whether you have cancer (the disease) otherwise people would choose not to have it.

People do have a choice whether to be addict.


People turn to all sorts of crutches when life throws them a rough deal at them ie food , boose, drugs. Someone once said you dont know if your alcoholic until you have your first sip. I read somewhere a woman had a gastric band and lost 14stone, she then became addicted to booze, she indeed needed a crutch, perhaps you should treat the reason people have addiction . Most addicts have a reason for taking drugs.

[tmi]

When someone posted the management make money from re - releasing stuff aint that the truth. Amy wont see the rewards.

[Boothy]

Originally Posted by tmi

I would like to ask a few questions,


If you are addicted to food, does that mean it is a disease?

f you are addicted to booze , does that mean it is a disease?

If Your addicted to drugs , does that mean it is a disease.


If someone has cancer is that a disease?


Tbh I cannot comprehend that addictions are diseases.

People are not addicts from birth, unless they're mother was using while carrying.


People choose to be an addict you cant choose whether you have cancer (the disease) otherwise people would choose not to have it.

People do have a choice whether to be addict.


People turn to all sorts of crutches when life throws them a rough deal at them ie food , boose, drugs. Someone once said you dont know if your alcoholic until you have your first sip. I read somewhere a woman had a gastric band and lost 14stone, she then became addicted to booze, she indeed needed a crutch, perhaps you should treat the reason people have addiction . Most addicts have a reason for taking drugs.

But people don't chose to be addicts. That's the point. You think Amy wanted to be lying facedown in her own vomit wondering where her next hit of heroin was gonna come from?

It's not a physical disease like cancer but it's definitely a mental one. She didn't wake up one day and decide 'Oh, I'm gonna become a crack addict today'. But through her own personal life experiences, the people she associated with and naivety, her drug use gradually got more and more out of control.

I'm not trying to say she should be seen as a role model, far from it, but I don't think it's fair to say that her death was totally self inflicted. She was in and out of rehab so it's obvious she knew she was messed up. But addiction alters the mind. Unless you've been there, I don't think anyone, myself included, knows just how powerful it can be.

And not being born an addict has no bearing on anything. People aren't born with cancer.

[tmi]

Originally Posted by Boothy

But people don't chose to be addicts. That's the point. You think Amy wanted to be lying facedown in her own vomit wondering where her next hit of heroin was gonna come from?

It's not a physical disease like cancer but it's definitely a mental one. She didn't wake up one day and decide 'Oh, I'm gonna become a crack addict today'. But through her own personal life experiences, the people she associated with and naivety, her drug use gradually got more and more out of control.

I'm not trying to say she should be seen as a role model, far from it, but I don't think it's fair to say that her death was totally self inflicted. She was in and out of rehab so it's obvious she knew she was messed up. But addiction alters the mind. Unless you've been there, I don't think anyone, myself included, knows just how powerful it can be.

And not being born an addict has no bearing on anything. People aren't born with cancer.

Well according to recent research some are born with the cancer gene.
Yes all your points are valid, but for me she did choose to take drugs, but I guess the people she surrounded herself with also had addictions and that group would have been hard for her to get away from. I think that Pete bloke is heading the same way, a vunerable person hanging around with addicts is a slippery slope, I have seen with my own eyes, they try and get away but they drag them back.

[Smithy]

How about you all stop acting like 5 year olds and just be sorry that someone so talented is dead

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Plus music channels are playing endless tributes to her. As they should.

Why is that Zipster? Explain it to me like I'm a 5 year old. Did she break new ground during her short life or just mess it up?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Smithy

How about you all stop acting like 5 year olds and just be sorry that someone so talented is dead

such a waste of a life and talent. RIP

[Iceman]

Closed for cleaning.

[Niamh.]

Ok can you two just leave it now please, you're ruining the thread

[Iceman]

Reopened, next person who causes this thread to be closed is getting a ban, I dont care who it is.

[Callum]

Amy changed pop music forever, I remember knowing there was hope, and feeling not alone because of her. She lived jazz, she lived the blues.

Gaga pays tribute

[Doogle]

I know it would never have happened but I always thought if GaGa actually did a jazz album, Amy Winehouse would've been an amazing addition to one of the songs.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Iceman

Reopened, next person who causes this thread to be closed is getting a ban, I dont care who it is.

Can I ask a question please just to clarify what posters can and cannot post, going forward.

Given the recent posts from today that have been removed and seeing the ones that remain: is this to be regarded as more a Tribute thread, with comments of a more sympathetic and positive nature being the preferred choice.

I'm asking as I'm an unclear if any discussion surrounding the manner of AW's death is to be allowed and the impact that may have? I'd be grateful if that could be clarified please. Thanks.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Can I ask a question please just to clarify what posters can and cannot post, going forward.

Given the recent posts from today that have been removed and seeing the ones that remain: is this to be regarded as more a Tribute thread, with comments of a more sympathetic and positive nature being the preferred choice.

I'm asking as I'm an unclear if any discussion surrounding the manner of AW's death is to be allowed and the impact that may have? I'd be grateful if that could be clarified please. Thanks.

Members can still post their opinions, the posts that have been removed (on this page) are mostly discussing other members and not the topic of the thread.

[tmi]

Originally Posted by Josy

Members can still post their opinions, the posts that have been removed (on this page) are mostly discussing other members and not the topic of the thread.

Thanks for the clarity.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Josy

Members can still post their opinions, the posts that have been removed (on this page) are mostly discussing other members and not the topic of the thread.

Many thanks for the clarification Josy. Appreciated.

[Lewis.]

She's doing very well in the charts

[Lewis.]

... just a shame it's under these circumstances

[Doogle]

Well she would've done amazingly had she gotten around to releasing a 3rd album.

[Pyramid*]

How well was she charting before yesterday do you know - I don't follow them.

[Smithy]

she wasnt

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Doogle

Well she would've done amazingly had she gotten around to releasing a 3rd album.

I suspect that would have been determined only when the album came out and the quality of the recordings on it.

It could have been a hit like Back To Black, it could also have failed miserably. No one can say either way now.