[Vicky.]

Corbyn is 'hinting' at a second ref apparently

This hinting at this and hinting at that is part of the ****ing problem. Just bloody well chose, you cannot keep both sides happy.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Corbyn is 'hinting' at a second ref apparently

This hinting at this and hinting at that is part of the ****ing problem. Just bloody well chose, you cannot keep both sides happy.

He's going to lose me if he keeps hinting and not setting out to delliver.

He needs to say he'll fully support one or not.
If he won't, then he needs to go and fast.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

He's going to lose me if he keeps hinting and not setting out to delliver.

He needs to say he'll fully support one or not.
If he won't, then he needs to go and fast.

I will be surprised if he sets a firm view.

I would also be surprised if he left voluntarily. And unfortunately, I think anyone challenging him for leadership would be wiped out.

I really don't think he will go until Labour do way worse than usual at a GE, asnd even then he might cling on and make excuses.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I will be surprised if he sets a firm view.

I would also be surprised if he left voluntarily. And unfortunately, I think anyone challenging him for leadership would be wiped out.

I really don't think he will go until Labour do way worse than usual at a GE, asnd even then he might cling on and make excuses.

I feel the same, Vicky.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I will be surprised if he sets a firm view.

I would also be surprised if he left voluntarily. And unfortunately, I think anyone challenging him for leadership would be wiped out.

I really don't think he will go until Labour do way worse than usual at a GE, asnd even then he might cling on and make excuses.

As Livia once reminded me of Harold Wilson saying a week is a long time in politics.

Politics can change in a flash.
Hence the chaos for the 2 usual main Parties re Brexit.

Corbyn isn't invincible, milk left out the fridge can go off overnight.

The membership want a new vote.
If he faffs about on this new vote and really fudges it again.
That tide can easily turn.
I think the signs are it is beginning to anyway.
From what I'm hearing.

Then he has this investigation looming now.
He may well think gradually 5 years as leader, helping erode the overall majority the Conservatives had, and now he's 70.
This a best or good time to quit while seeming ahead.

No main party will win the next election outright.
I don't know Vicky, if he fails to back a new public vote.
That could be an issue too much to take for Labour MPs and at last Labour members too.
Of which I'm one if he fails to support one now.

I'm now, like yourself extremely both disappointed and dismayed by him.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I really don't think he will go until Labour do way worse than usual at a GE

Well... he is also quite old .

[bots]

there was some serious criticism flying from labour mp's on sunday night toward "the party". I think labour are just a split as the tories on who wants what outcome, they have just hidden it better being the opposition and fudged it by not committing to either side. The moment labour choose a side is the moment they split apart too